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Get the most that you can for Favors, but if he's here after the trade deadline, that's a mistake. He's not re-signing.
 
heard that the clippers are shopping deandre jordan....Maybe the cavs will pick him up for that brooklyn 1st?
 
Not with LBJ waffling on leaving or staying. The new Cavs GM proved he's not a pushover in the IT/Kyrie trade, getting the most he could (the BKN pick) out of a horrible bargaining position. While the BKN pick may not be as good as once hoped for, it will be the foundation of their rebuild. They're not going to trade it for a player like Jordan.

Now if LBJ stays, they might flip that pick for a veteran who can contribute immediately, just as they did for Love by trading Wiggins.
 
In December, we should trade Rubio and a 2nd rounder for Frye, Osman and a throw in like Calderon.

Maybe Cleveland will want another decent player for low cost to let Isaiah heal as much as possible. I would happy with the 2018/19 savings.


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Why would Cleveland want Rubio? Lebron is essentially the best PG in the league, and when he's on the bench IT will soon be running the show.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Why would Cleveland want Rubio? Lebron is essentially the best PG in the league, and when he's on the bench IT will soon be running the show.
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Also got to imagine they will try to retain IT next year, even if Lebron leaves. I don't see Cleveland going into full tank mode. They will probably try to do a quick rebuild centered around IT and the Brooklyn pick.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Also got to imagine they will try to retain IT next year, even if Lebron leaves. I don't see Cleveland going into full tank mode. They will probably try to do a quick rebuild centered around IT and the Brooklyn pick.
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We agree on a lot of things, but I don't see them doing that if LBJ leaves. Guess it also depends on the severity of IT's injury. But are they going to waste a ton of money on a player who will be 29 with questionable health? 30+ is when most players just naturally start to decline. Don't see his age matching up with the maturation of the BKN pick. If Lebron leaves, I could also see Cleveland trying to get assets for Love.

The Boston model is a great case study on how to build a team. They've drafted well and have their key players aligned very well in terms of ages. Horford is the only old guy at 31. I think a lot of teams are going to follow that model. The market for IT might be very small. Cleveland has so many old players they should have an assisted living center instead of a training facility.
 
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We agree on a lot of things, but I don't see them doing that. Guess it just depends on the severity of IT's injury. But are they going to waste a ton of money on a player who will be 29 with questionable health? 30+ is when most players just naturally start to decline. Don't see his age matching up with the maturation of the BKN pick. If Lebron leaves, I could also see Cleveland trying to get assets for Love.

The Boston model is a great case study on how to build a team. They've drafted well and have their key players aligned very well in terms of ages. Horford is the only old guy at 31. I think a lot of teams are going to follow that model. The market for IT might be very small. Cleveland has so many old players they should have an assisted living center instead of a training facility.
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Yes, they are Cleveland. They want to compete and sell tickets.
 
Jack Strop said:
We agree on a lot of things, but I don't see them doing that if LBJ leaves. Guess it also depends on the severity of IT's injury. But are they going to waste a ton of money on a player who will be 29 with questionable health? 30+ is when most players just naturally start to decline. Don't see his age matching up with the maturation of the BKN pick. If Lebron leaves, I could also see Cleveland trying to get assets for Love.

The Boston model is a great case study on how to build a team. They've drafted well and have their key players aligned very well in terms of ages. Horford is the only old guy at 31. I think a lot of teams are going to follow that model. The market for IT might be very small. Cleveland has so many old players they should have an assisted living center instead of a training facility.
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Boston model works because they can get big names to come play for them. Utah Jazz can't.
 
LoPo said:
In December, we should trade Rubio and a 2nd rounder for Frye, Osman and a throw in like Calderon.

Maybe Cleveland will want another decent player for low cost to let Isaiah heal as much as possible. I would happy with the 2018/19 savings.

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Jazz4ever said:
Why would Cleveland want Rubio? Lebron is essentially the best PG in the league, and when he's on the bench IT will soon be running the show.
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Depends on IT's health. LBJ is playing 38 mins right now. His workload is way too much. Rubio would b e a decent PG for them as Ricky wouldn't need to score. He'd be taking the load off LBJ and dishing out assists to Love, LBJ, Crowder and Smith. Going from a co-#1 option in Utah (at least that's what it looks like - or how I perceive he feels), to a #5 option in Cleveland.

Just give the reigns to Mitchell and Neto. Clears the way for Exum to return next year and frees up cap space to go after shooters.
 
yamers said:
Boston model works because they can get big names to come play for them. Utah Jazz can't
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Rozier, Tatum and Brown were draft picks. Jazz got guys like Boozer and Okur in the past. I just don't buy the crap that Utah can't get FA's. Sure, we're not getting the likes of Lebron or Durant. But Jazz don't have to. They need to draft smart (DL has spent FIVE 1st round picks on PG's) and sign quality FA's. That's doable. Also, part of the "can't get" is DL (and KOC before that) saying, "too expensive." Millsap was gettable, but Jazz didn't want to spend the money. Other FA's have been attainable, but Lindsey wants to be a bargain shopper. So he signs the likes of Booker, Sefolosha, Udoh and Jerebko. Kudos on JJ, but Johnson apparently contacted the Jazz. I'm surprised DL doled out $11M. It didn't really fit his style.

My comment was more along the lines of Cleveland following that model. When LBJ left the first time, they went into a rebuild mode. I think they'll do that again. Utah is the team that has refused to rebuild, even when Lindsey said that was going to be his strategy. The only thing that meant was being cheap and ripping off the fans. He didn't put Utah in position to get a high draft pick for several years running. Exum...that was his sole "prize" picking in the lottery.
 
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