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Is Favors in the long-term plans at this point?

Frankly someone like Love paired with Gobert would be devastating. If we could swing a trade like that it would be worth it to move Favors.
 
I don't know what games or sport some of you are watching, but Gobert and Favors have always limited one another offensively. Always. The only other variables to consider are just how bad they limit each other and if the boost in defense is net positive.

The other thing to consider is the league is changing and getting smarter every single year. Not only are teams more adept and comfortable punishing teams going big, there's more data on how Favors and Gobert play together.

If the best the Jazz can get is a mid-late 2nd rounder, well, I guess go into FA with his Bird rights and see if there's a sign-and-trade scenario since there's a crunched market next offseason, but if the Jazz can get a top-35 pick and not take back salary beyond 2019, then just do it. Especially since Favors' value is going to suffer once he is again playing with Rubio and Gobert.

Once December 15th hits, the phones better be cooking.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I think that Favors and Gobert have had plenty of time to show that they work together on the court. Unfortunately for Favors, I don't think that they do. We made our second round run in the playoffs with Favors OR Gobert on the bench for almost EVERY critical 4th quarter minute. When Gobert was on the bench, Favors helped us win the Clippers series and visa versa. Favors is a 17 - 10 center or a 8 - 6 backup power forward in this league. Teams that don't have rim protectors would be thrilled to have his services.

The Bucks are in a virtual 3 way tie for 8th, 9th, and 10th. With Bledsoe's contract, they are going to be hard pressed to resign Jabari. Henson is a pretty poor starting center with 3 years left on his contract. Jabari + Henson + Trade Exception for Favors + Exum makes some serious sense for both teams. Just saying...
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He put up 16 and 8 at PF when healthy next to Gobert pretty consistently. Even when we had Exum at PG his rookie year when he couldn't shoot threes he was putting up those numbers with Gobert at C.

Our offense is getting the same shots it got when Gobert was healthy. We are just hitting them now and our team is figuring things out. That is not because of Gobert being out, it is in spite of it. Maybe they will struggle again when Gobert comes back but I think they can figure it out. The biggest question with Favors is if he wants to stay and how much money it will cost.
 
I honestly think Favs is a better PnR player out of the two. But if Favs likes it here and is okay being the back up center. Then sign him up!


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David Stern said:
Props to D-Faves for absolutely balling out since Gobert went down, he's helped immensely. I know the board majority felt that he needed to be traded before Rudy's injury, I'm wondering with his play of late if that opinion has changed? How would Favors react to being brought off the bench as the focal point of the offense with Hood? I'm personally of the opinion that staggering Hood/Favors and Mitchell/Rudy with the four of them closing games is the best thing for this team.
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The 4 can only close games if Rubio is also on the bench. Favors, Gobert and Rubio are a very poor combo on the floor together.
 
David Stern said:
Props to D-Faves for absolutely balling out since Gobert went down, he's helped immensely. I know the board majority felt that he needed to be traded before Rudy's injury, I'm wondering with his play of late if that opinion has changed? How would Favors react to being brought off the bench as the focal point of the offense with Hood? I'm personally of the opinion that staggering Hood/Favors and Mitchell/Rudy with the four of them closing games is the best thing for this team.
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The 4 can only close games if Rubio is also on the bench. Favors, Gobert and Rubio are a very poor combo on the floor together.
Thee jazz fan said:
The only problem with this is Gobert is the one doing the rolling when in, which marginalizes Favors Role in the offense.
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That needs to change. Favors is a superior offensive player and Gobert is easily eliminated on those rolls to the basket. Teams have figured that play out.
 
gregbroncs said:
The 4 can only close games if Rubio is also on the bench. Favors, Gobert and Rubio are a very poor combo on the floor together.

That needs to change. Favors is a superior offensive player and Gobert is easily eliminated on those rolls to the basket. Teams have figured that play out.
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Nobody is rolling to the basket with that spacing. That's the whole, entire, ****ing god damn problem.
 
stitches said:
IMO it will help a little but it ultimately won't work. I've laid it out here before, I don't want to repeat myself. The main problem of the Rubio-Favors-Gobert combinations is not the lack of stretch 4. It's the presence of both of Rubio and Gobert. The stretch 4 will alleviate a bit of the pressure on the back end, but Rubio still cannot beat the pnr when paired with Gobert because the bigs will continue to drop off to stop Gobert's roll and won't help with Rubio because the guard will always go under and this won't create the situation for the big to help.
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I agree. Between Rubio's inability to shoot and Gobert's inability to punish teams that switch small guys on him that creates an easy to guard PNR in the paint with those 2. With Favors in on offense if they switch a small guy onto him he is punishing them for it, Gobert is incapable of doing this.

My only reservations with Favors is that he is a FA after this year. I wish the Jazz had extended him when they could. Right now I'm not sure Gobert is a better C for this team than Favors is. The offense with Favors on the floor is far better than it was with Gobert. If you replace Rubio with a shooter at PG then you might be able to get by with Favors and Gobert on the floor occasionally. Like one on the floor at all times and limited minutes together. But that only works if your PG is a bigger offensive threat than Neto/ Rubio. Maybe if it's Mitchell, Hood and Ingles during those stretches it could work.
 
Ron Mexico said:
He put up 16 and 8 at PF when healthy next to Gobert pretty consistently. Even when we had Exum at PG his rookie year when he couldn't shoot threes he was putting up those numbers with Gobert at C.

Our offense is getting the same shots it got when Gobert was healthy. We are just hitting them now and our team is figuring things out. That is not because of Gobert being out, it is in spite of it. Maybe they will struggle again when Gobert comes back but I think they can figure it out. The biggest question with Favors is if he wants to stay and how much money it will cost.
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I disagree that the shots are the same. They may be coming from the same place on the floor, but the floor is spaced better and teams are not as easily clogging the paint. So they hedge a little farther from the shooter to help with the paint. Which is opening up the shooter to have more room to get good looks on the perimeter without feeling rushed or defended.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I don't want the jazz to turn Mitchell into a pg. he's way more valuable as an attacking 2, besides he's not of a comb jack of all trades do everything kind of player. I don't want to limit his potential. Let him play stretches as pg but not full time.


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On offense with that lineup he'd be the 2, let Ingles handle the ball. Then on defense he guards the PG, he can handle that.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If Favors is cool with being a 25 mpg player. I think the Jazz can be really good if he starts, but just plays like the first 5 minutes of the 1st and 3rd then plays all the backup center minutes, and probably doesnt finish the 2nd/4th.
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Or he and Gobert switch finishing depending on who is needed more. Need offense play Favors, need defense well obviously Rudy is your guy. Need both, who having the better game/matchup.
 
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