Magazines capable of holding over 10 rounds have been around for at least 150 years, yet only in the last few years are they being advantageously used for mass killings. Why? Must be because guns have changed. Take away guns from law abiding citizens and crooks will still have them. Anyone with a serious desire to own one would still be able to. If you were somehow able to get rid of all guns (can't, won't happen, and shouldn't), other methods would be used for mass slaughter, some of which would be even more devastating. Suicide bombs, other explosive devices placed just right to level buildings, vehicles used at just the right time in the right venue, etc. I almost think it's hilarious how few people some of you on here believe own guns. Just because they don't flaunt them doesn't change or eliminate their existence. There are millions of guns exactly like the one used in Florida, including a bunch that have no trail as to where they came from or who they belong to. Guns definitely make it easier for people wanting to do massive harm to innocent people, even I won't argue that. But it's ignorance to think taking guns from the average person is going to change anything. Let's just continue to sow seeds of hate, allow people to do whatever they want/feels good/feels right etc, and then pray not to reap what was sown. What's sad is to look at the % of the mass killings done by people (men) from broken homes, but oh yeah, this is just about guns. Symptom or problem?
MVP
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Why don't you visit Japan?
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You're comparing one of the poorest countries in this hemisphere to the United States.
It's sad how we keep going in circles in this debate. The right just keeps repeating the same tired 3-4 lines over and over and over again.
They either aren't listening or know they're wrong but don't want to admit it.
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Yes, we did. The data doesn't support your position.
Industrialized nations who have gun control experience lower gun violence rates than those that don't.
Facts matter
hmmmm maybe go to a country that actually follows the law and have strict gun law?
like Japan or Korea? I never worried about someone shooting me when I walked around the city around 3 am.
This will never happen in USA tho. too many guns are out there. even strict gun laws will not solve the issue. we have to start from somewhere tho. not sure what the solution is honestly.
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There are a lot of things we can do to get guns out of circulation. We haven’t even tried anything yet.
Australia sponsored a program to buy back assault weapons. It was extremely successful.
I’d personally like to see:
1. Insurance programs mandatory for every gun owner, just like car insurance. The more lethal the weapon the higher the annual/monthly insurance premium will be.
2. Mandatory training for certain weapons.
3. Outlaw consumer to consumer deals. Only licensed dealers should be able to buy and sell weapons to consumers.
4. High capacity magazines, assault weapons, and bump stocks outlawed.
5. Comprehensive background checks that look into one’s social media activity, job reviews, and school grades. Had this been in effect, then this *** clown would’ve never been able to legally purchase a weapon.
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Good stuff there
Miggs
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How many of those industrialized nations have the ghettos or drug trade we have?
RandyForRubio
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Thriller, what do you consider to be common sense or sensible gun control?
I think he might have me on ignore, so if anybody else would like to ask him, that would be appreciated. Thanks!
I think he might have me on ignore, so if anybody else would like to ask him, that would be appreciated. Thanks!
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did I politely exit this argument? then have scum suckers start quoting me?
anyone else want on the ignore list?
anyone else want on the ignore list?
Most industrialized countries have a similar drug trade to the US, you guys just kill each more over drugs than the rest of the world. Probably because of the wide spread access to firearms...
There are ghettos in the UK, some of those council estates are pretty horrible and you know Scotland... Parts of Belfast are pretty ****ed, we thankfully have nothing like your ghettos here.
Isn't it?