Then they have about 2 weeks.
Cavs Looking to Get The #2 Pick As Well
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Then they have about 2 weeks.
Actually I hope the Mavs win.
Detroit might be asking for additional players also or future picks.
They will. Dirk is going to unleash
billyshelby
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The buyout still counts against the cap. So Cleveland should be accepting a two year cap hit (presumably the buyout figure prorated for 2 seasons.) It may also be that whatever Rip signs for is subtracted from that number. Detroit's thinking is probably that they'd rather be players in free agency than have the 8th pick.
billyshelby
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I doubt it. Unloading Rip for the 8th pick is a huge coup for them.
If you're the GM of a lottery team like the Pistons, I think you're better off picking up an attractive player and worrying about trading Rip later. The Pistons could get Walker, Vesely, Leonard, Biyombo, Burks or Valanciunas.
billyshelby
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If you're the GM of a lottery team who is barely hanging on to his job, you need results. Drafting for the future is not going to save Joe D. But having flexibility to sign FA's, resign his own guys, or take on salary in trades is a much faster road to respectability.
But even if he Sloan level job security, I'd still trade the 8 to get out from under Rip's deal. The chance of a guy drafted at 8 becoming a superstar is like 30 to 1. Rudy Gay (and Chambers) are the only great players to come out of that spot. And there's a 50 percent chance the guy outright busts. So now he can spend money on guys that are proven in the league. Detroit's a mess, don't get me wrong, but it's a good move.
Fair enough, but if I'm Detroit, I at least work people out, I see how the draft looks to play out, and I explore other trades before I pull the trigger on this. I understand they have probably been trying to trade Rip for years and haven't been successful, so maybe they just want to unload him. They may think a FA will help them more than someone in this draft. I think
I just checked the Minnesota T'wolves board on RealGM, and they seem in favor of this deal. It seems the market is being set for the #2 pick.
I just checked the Minnesota T'wolves board on RealGM, and they seem in favor of this deal. It seems the market is being set for the #2 pick.
Posted this on another thread....
Jazz give: #3, #12 and Jazz Player X (Miles?)
Jazz get: #2, #18 and Wolves Player (Flynn) - draft Williams and Brooks/Jackson/Selby/Jimmer if he drops
Wizards give: #6, #18 and player they want to move
Wizards get: #12 and Jazz Player X (Miles)
Wolves give: #2 and Wolves Player (Flynn)
Wolves get: #3, #6 and a player from the Wizards
Summary:
- Good move for the Wolves, since they would pick a PG at 3 and Biyombo or Valanciunas at 6. This is better than the Cavs/Pistons proposal. They just need to take back a player from the Wizards.
- Okay move for the Wizards if they like Miles, like a player available at 12, and want to move a contract to the Wolves.
- The Jazz get to draft Williams and still pick up a rotation player at 18. They give up Miles and take back Flynn as a back-up. It all depends on how passionate the Jazz are about moving up to take Williams.
I think if I'm the Wizards though, I'd stay at #6 and draft Biyombo, Vesely, Burks, etc.
Jazz give: #3, #12 and Jazz Player X (Miles?)
Jazz get: #2, #18 and Wolves Player (Flynn) - draft Williams and Brooks/Jackson/Selby/Jimmer if he drops
Wizards give: #6, #18 and player they want to move
Wizards get: #12 and Jazz Player X (Miles)
Wolves give: #2 and Wolves Player (Flynn)
Wolves get: #3, #6 and a player from the Wizards
Summary:
- Good move for the Wolves, since they would pick a PG at 3 and Biyombo or Valanciunas at 6. This is better than the Cavs/Pistons proposal. They just need to take back a player from the Wizards.
- Okay move for the Wizards if they like Miles, like a player available at 12, and want to move a contract to the Wolves.
- The Jazz get to draft Williams and still pick up a rotation player at 18. They give up Miles and take back Flynn as a back-up. It all depends on how passionate the Jazz are about moving up to take Williams.
I think if I'm the Wizards though, I'd stay at #6 and draft Biyombo, Vesely, Burks, etc.
