Men are pigs
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Stereotypes exist for a reason, I suppose.
Because we teach them to the next generation?
The are social traits instilled by a patriarchal system, not the results of reproductive biology.
Patriarchy? You think this is political? Who told you this? You are aware that women have a limited time window of fertility and are in a somewhat vulnerable state when nursing and caring for infants. You're also aware that it takes nearly 20 years and a lot of resources to raise a child. That's not political science. That's how one generation succeeds the next.
FalseFlagg K
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lol sure. ffs
Hey, @idestroyedthetoilet this seems like a good enough thread for you to continue to justify your sexism.
I know you are one of the many on our board that get a little sensitive about racism, sexism, homophobia and other things pointed out. I do try and avoid posting it in the Jazz sections. Its just too funny in a thread with people getting upset with being accused of racism to make sexist and homophobic comments. But yes I did point it out although not a specific post (too many to point out tbh) and then the next post said I would not post anymore in the Jazz section about it because I know some people cant handle that and dont want those conversations in there.
But back to your post, you literally gave the definition of sexism as a reason for your comments not being sexist.
Saying men are the stronger sex is sexist.
Calling other men female terms as an insult is definitely sexist/Calling a man a female body part to infer that they are weak is sexist.
Assuming something about a person because they are a women even if the majority fit the mold is sexist.
Yes, in general the average women is not as strong in the upper body(not all though) as the average man. There are many factors to that but that does not make an entire sex "weaker," using history does not help your argument more either. History is filled with humans being terrible.
Our society is sexist and racist and lot of other things. It isn't necessarily a bad thing individually (but leads to bad things as a society) and it isn't an insult to say you are one of those things, despite it making most people defensive. All of us make assumptions. All we can do is realize when we do and try and be better.
I know you are one of the many on our board that get a little sensitive about racism, sexism, homophobia and other things pointed out. I do try and avoid posting it in the Jazz sections. Its just too funny in a thread with people getting upset with being accused of racism to make sexist and homophobic comments. But yes I did point it out although not a specific post (too many to point out tbh) and then the next post said I would not post anymore in the Jazz section about it because I know some people cant handle that and dont want those conversations in there.
But back to your post, you literally gave the definition of sexism as a reason for your comments not being sexist.
Saying men are the stronger sex is sexist.
Calling other men female terms as an insult is definitely sexist/Calling a man a female body part to infer that they are weak is sexist.
Assuming something about a person because they are a women even if the majority fit the mold is sexist.
Yes, in general the average women is not as strong in the upper body(not all though) as the average man. There are many factors to that but that does not make an entire sex "weaker," using history does not help your argument more either. History is filled with humans being terrible.
Our society is sexist and racist and lot of other things. It isn't necessarily a bad thing individually (but leads to bad things as a society) and it isn't an insult to say you are one of those things, despite it making most people defensive. All of us make assumptions. All we can do is realize when we do and try and be better.
You seem to be confused about terms and biology. Patriarchy is cultural state, not a political system. Depending on the woman, the "limited window" is actually 30-40 years. Until very recently (biologically speaking, practically no time at all), we were hunter-gatherer primates whose children were marginally self-sufficient (that is, they could find enough food to feed themselves) before they turned 10, and consumed few resources before that age.
You seem to be stuck in white, 1950s stereotypes regarding gender.
Why don't you ask a woman or women of any culture (not just so-called white American culture) what traits they look for in a male partner then? Explain to these women that they don't need a man to be a stable provider, but rather, that we were recently hunter-gatherers whose children could scavenge for themselves at the age of 10. Write back.
It's sad you just assume I have not discussed this with a variety of women over the years. Is that so rare in your world?
The results of human society speak for themselves, as do many women (if you bother to listen). Different women want different things (as you would expect, evolutionarily speaking). In fact, the same woman often looks for different things in men at different times in their life. Some prioritize financial support, some emotional support, some appearance, some intelligence, some artistic ability, etc. Many prioritize several of these to different degrees.
Laughter is easier than learning.
Would you be willing to describe yourself in terms of age, location, demographic and who you're partnered with, if anyone currently?
If you look at actual social data (as opposed to anecdotes and your own personal admonitions), you'll see that when women choose a long-term male partner and ultimately marry, they rarely deviate from some very specific criteria -- including physical criteria and status/success within social hierarchies. Women rarely choose men who are not at least as tall (or at least nearly as tall) as they are, who do not have equal or at least near-equal status within social hierarchies as they themselves do, and who do not meet certain standards for physical appearance that they themselves meet. There may be a few exceptions to these general rules, and you can argue that these are culturally learned or transferred attitudes if you want, but they are nonetheless consistent from culture to culture.
Jordan Peterson is one clinician who has covered related topics in his lectures. This is an example.