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Sorry Jazz fans – Ben is the NBA Rookie of the Year

That was just selfish basketball right there. Throw a lob away from the basket after dribbling out the clock?

No, the opposite is true. The fact that Ben only took 4 shots in 30 minutes of game time tells you that Ben is one of the most unselfish you have ever seen. 99 % of other players in the same situation would have taken another 10~15 shots just to boost the points tally.( Remenber Ben only had one point for the whole match ). Unfortunately Donivan Mitchell falls into that category. Ben does not even care about his stats because he always put the team first.
 
I don't care for this "politically correct" b.s. It's fake and dishonest, and retarded. People should use whatever words they want. If it shows their bias or prejudice, so be it. At least it's transparent. Political correctness is very similar to euphemism, a common method of concealing truth.

Since you've decided to push back, I hope you'll do me the courtesy of reading what I'm about to write and think about it carefully. Initially, your comment made me feel angry. So I read it multiple times, took a breath, calmed down, and now I'll try to respond in a productive way. This is kind of long, but please stick with me. Think carefully. Do you know and love anyone with a disability? Would you denigrate them to their face; call them "retarded"?

For me, this isn't a question of "political correctness." It's about recognizing the human dignity of every living person, whatever their level of physical or intellectual ability or disability. Calling someone a "retard" carries a negative accusation about people with disabilities. You are cashing in on someone else's disability in order to tear down or hurt someone else. You seem to be saying that it should be an insult to be called a "retard," and that it should be shameful. That the worth of someone with a disability is so low that you can use their disability as a label to shame someone. I think that's terrible.

I actually agree with one thing you said: You're right that using such language demonstrates a person's prejudice. In some ways, it's actually good to know that someone is a racist, bigot, or ableist. But I don't want to leave it at that, because prejudice itself is the real problem. Language reflects a prejudiced mindset. When I ask someone not to use a word like "retard," I'm implicitly inviting them to start reevaluating their prejudices. They can begin changing their mindset by paying more attention to their language. I personally went through that process. I'd be happy to tell you the story if you're interested.

You might be worried that my request not to use certain words will result in a sheltered society where people are too weak to withstand difficulties. As though we need racial, ethnic, or gender- or ability-based insults in order to become stronger people. I believe it takes more strength to revise our language. I'm all for helping people develop grit, and I try to develop grit and resilience in myself and my kids. They'll need it, because there are plenty of people who will insist on saying things like "retard" because they don't want to be fake and dishonest. I think the "real you" shouldn't feel good about demeaning the dignity of people with disabilities. If that's the "real you," then I invite you to change. Then you won't have to worry about being fake and dishonest, because the real you will understand the value inherent in human life in a way that lifts everyone.
 
yeah but he still hasn't got the real number 1 pick right, just like Simmons isn't a real rookie.

Since he's recalling what went on he is right. I'm pretty sure Mitchell was never part of the discussion for the pick before the draft. He's talking about the choice between Fultz and Tatum. How is that so ****ing hard to understand, OMFG!!


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Look, if using a famous quote from a comedy movie is offends you or comes across as me saying a slur, I will not use that line any more.

At the end of the day, I believe in levity.
 
Since he's recalling what went on he is right. I'm pretty sure Mitchell was never part of the discussion for the pick before the draft. He's talking about the choice between Fultz and Tatum. How is that so ****ing hard to understand, OMFG!!


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Look, if using a famous quote from a comedy movie is offends you or comes across as me saying a slur, I will not use that line any more.

At the end of the day, I believe in levity.

This is another backdoor I've seen people use when they push back against a request not to say "retard." I must not have a sense of humor if I'm pushing back against this. I'm not a humorless person in general. But I am very humorless about this.

I appreciate that you won't say the word around here any more. I hope you'll consider erasing it from your vocab altogether.
 
Since you've decided to push back, I hope you'll do me the courtesy of reading what I'm about to write and to think about it. Initially, your comment made me feel angry. So I read it multiple times, took a breath, calmed down, and now I'll try to respond in a productive way. This is kind of long, but please stick with me. Think carefully. Do you know and love anyone with a disability? Would you denigrate them to their face; call them "retarded"?

For me, this isn't a question of "political correctness." It's about recognizing the human dignity of every living person, whatever their level of physical or intellectual ability or disability. Calling someone a "retard" carries a negative accusation about people with disabilities. You are cashing in on someone else's disability in order to tear down or hurt someone else. You seem to be saying that it should be an insult to be called a "retard," and that it should be shameful. That the worth of someone with a disability is so low that you can use their disability as a label to shame someone. I think that's terrible.

I actually agree with one thing you said: You're right that using such language demonstrates a person's prejudice. But I believe prejudice is the real problem. Language reflects a prejudiced mindset. When I ask someone not to use a word like "retard," I'm implicitly inviting them to start reevaluating their prejudices. They can begin changing their mindset by paying more attention to their language.

You might be worried that my request not to use certain words will result in a sheltered society where people are too weak to withstand difficulties. As though we need racial, ethnic, or gender- or ability-based insults in order to become stronger people. I believe it takes more strength to revise our language. I'm all for helping people develop grit, and I try to develop grit and resilience in myself and my kids. They'll need it, because there are plenty of people who will insist on saying things like "retard" because they don't want to be fake and dishonest. I say, the "real you" shouldn't feel good about demeaning the dignity of people with disabilities. If that's the "real you," then I invite you to change. Then you won't have to worry about being fake and dishonest, because the real you will understand the value inherent in human life in a way that lifts everyone.

See, Life, you misunderstand what I'm saying. You know, for three years, I worked with developmentally disabled people. And I was damn good at it -- in fact, I won an award one of those years for my work. Of course, I wouldn't use the word in that setting, among people in that community. The point I was making is that people need the freedom to use whichever word they wish depending on context. The people on this board aren't developmentally disabled, though sometimes you might wonder. It's just a word and in certain contexts, you need to be sensitive about using it. You don't call a black person you don't know a ******, but if you're best buds with that person and have known them for many years, then damn straight you can him a ****** and vice-versa, and it won't change anything between you. A lot depends on context. The point about political correctness is that we need to get beyond that, we need to be able use words however we want, and in a truly egalitarian society, people will realize it's a just an insult, a person venting, but not take it so seriously. Words are just words, and we shouldn't let them hurt us. Ok, so I don't like Thee Jazz Fan calling me an idiot, but I'm used to it now because he's an idiot too.
 
Since you've decided to push back, I hope you'll do me the courtesy of reading what I'm about to write and think about it carefully. Initially, your comment made me feel angry. So I read it multiple times, took a breath, calmed down, and now I'll try to respond in a productive way. This is kind of long, but please stick with me. Think carefully. Do you know and love anyone with a disability? Would you denigrate them to their face; call them "retarded"?

For me, this isn't a question of "political correctness." It's about recognizing the human dignity of every living person, whatever their level of physical or intellectual ability or disability. Calling someone a "retard" carries a negative accusation about people with disabilities. You are cashing in on someone else's disability in order to tear down or hurt someone else. You seem to be saying that it should be an insult to be called a "retard," and that it should be shameful. That the worth of someone with a disability is so low that you can use their disability as a label to shame someone. I think that's terrible.

I actually agree with one thing you said: You're right that using such language demonstrates a person's prejudice. In some ways, it's actually good to know that someone is a racist, bigot, or ableist. But I don't want to leave it at that, because prejudice itself is the real problem. Language reflects a prejudiced mindset. When I ask someone not to use a word like "retard," I'm implicitly inviting them to start reevaluating their prejudices. They can begin changing their mindset by paying more attention to their language. I personally went through that process. I'd be happy to tell you the story if you're interested.

You might be worried that my request not to use certain words will result in a sheltered society where people are too weak to withstand difficulties. As though we need racial, ethnic, or gender- or ability-based insults in order to become stronger people. I believe it takes more strength to revise our language. I'm all for helping people develop grit, and I try to develop grit and resilience in myself and my kids. They'll need it, because there are plenty of people who will insist on saying things like "retard" because they don't want to be fake and dishonest. I think the "real you" shouldn't feel good about demeaning the dignity of people with disabilities. If that's the "real you," then I invite you to change. Then you won't have to worry about being fake and dishonest, because the real you will understand the value inherent in human life in a way that lifts everyone.

Did you pay yourself on the back for this diatribe? Make sure you never use idiot, moron or lame in any online or in person discourse.
 
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