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I have a question for all of my knowledgable soccer fans out there.....
So i have watched 3 penalty kicks so far this year. One was by rinaldo and he kicked to one side of the goal and the goalie dove the other way and it was a wide open easy goal for rinaldo.
Then i saw messi kick to one side of the goal and the goalie dove to that same side and blocked it.
Then i saw one other dude (cant remember his name) who kicked it way over the goal and the goalie dove to one side of the goal.
On all three attempts the goalie picked a side to dive to and dove that way.... They made the decision of which side to dive to before the ball was kicked. (im assuming because there is no time to react if you wait for the ball to be kicked)
I have seen the same thing happen over and over again in years past.

So, as the kicker, it seems that if you kick to the right you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie choses to dive to the left) and if you kick to the left you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie chooses to dive to the right). But why not just kick it nice and easy right down the middle? Seems like that way you have a nearly 100 percent chance that the goal will be open and you dont even need to kick it very hard since the goalie will have already jumped to one side of the goal. In all three penalty kicks i have seen so foar this year kicking it softly straight to the middle of the goal would have been the best decision every time yet no one did it that way. Why is that?
 
fishonjazz said:
I have a question for all of my knowledgable soccer fans out there.....
So i have watched 3 penalty kicks so far this year. One was by rinaldo and he kicked to one side of the goal and the goalie dove the other way and it was a wide open easy goal for rinaldo.
Then i saw messi kick to one side of the goal and the goalie dove to that same side and blocked it.
Then i saw one other dude (cant remember his name) who kicked it way over the goal and the goalie dove to one side of the goal.
On all three attempts the goalie picked a side to dive to and dove that way.... They made the decision of which side to dive to before the ball was kicked. (im assuming because there is no time to react if you wait for the ball to be kicked)
I have seen the same thing happen over and over again in years past.

So, as the kicker, it seems that if you kick to the right you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie choses to dive to the left) and if you kick to the left you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie chooses to dive to the right). But why not just kick it nice and easy right down the middle? Seems like that way you have a nearly 100 percent chance that the goal will be open and you dont even need to kick it very hard since the goalie will have already jumped to one side of the goal. In all three penalty kicks i have seen so foar this year kicking it softly straight to the middle of the goal would have been the best decision every time yet no one did it that way. Why is that?
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Statistically kicking it straight down the middle is the best thing to do but no player wants to do that and have the keeper save it and look like a goose.
 
fishonjazz said:
I have a question for all of my knowledgable soccer fans out there.....
So i have watched 3 penalty kicks so far this year. One was by rinaldo and he kicked to one side of the goal and the goalie dove the other way and it was a wide open easy goal for rinaldo.
Then i saw messi kick to one side of the goal and the goalie dove to that same side and blocked it.
Then i saw one other dude (cant remember his name) who kicked it way over the goal and the goalie dove to one side of the goal.
On all three attempts the goalie picked a side to dive to and dove that way.... They made the decision of which side to dive to before the ball was kicked. (im assuming because there is no time to react if you wait for the ball to be kicked)
I have seen the same thing happen over and over again in years past.

So, as the kicker, it seems that if you kick to the right you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie choses to dive to the left) and if you kick to the left you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie chooses to dive to the right). But why not just kick it nice and easy right down the middle? Seems like that way you have a nearly 100 percent chance that the goal will be open and you dont even need to kick it very hard since the goalie will have already jumped to one side of the goal. In all three penalty kicks i have seen so foar this year kicking it softly straight to the middle of the goal would have been the best decision every time yet no one did it that way. Why is that?
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For the most part the keeper chooses a side and then has miliseconds to see if the ball goes a different direction. If you kick it down the middle chances are greater that the keeper lucks out and is able to react in those miliseconds and just stay put.

The best is to kick it hard and to one side. If you kick it hard even if the keeper jumps to the same side he may not have time to get to the ball.
 
damn Danes dodged the bullet couple times here and missed a great chance by themselves as well.
 
fishonjazz said:
I have a question for all of my knowledgable soccer fans out there.....
So i have watched 3 penalty kicks so far this year. One was by rinaldo and he kicked to one side of the goal and the goalie dove the other way and it was a wide open easy goal for rinaldo.
Then i saw messi kick to one side of the goal and the goalie dove to that same side and blocked it.
Then i saw one other dude (cant remember his name) who kicked it way over the goal and the goalie dove to one side of the goal.
On all three attempts the goalie picked a side to dive to and dove that way.... They made the decision of which side to dive to before the ball was kicked. (im assuming because there is no time to react if you wait for the ball to be kicked)
I have seen the same thing happen over and over again in years past.

So, as the kicker, it seems that if you kick to the right you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie choses to dive to the left) and if you kick to the left you have a nearly 50% chance that the goal will be open (goalie chooses to dive to the right). But why not just kick it nice and easy right down the middle? Seems like that way you have a nearly 100 percent chance that the goal will be open and you dont even need to kick it very hard since the goalie will have already jumped to one side of the goal. In all three penalty kicks i have seen so foar this year kicking it softly straight to the middle of the goal would have been the best decision every time yet no one did it that way. Why is that?
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What you’re describing is called “Panenka goal”, which requires good skills:

 


Without doubt my favourite world cup memory, i still can't for the life of me remember where i watched the game tho.
 
@fishonjazz You starting to get into soccer? A good game doesn’t necessarily need to have a lot of scoring if you appreciate and understand the course of the game. The less skilled team normally tries to put up a defensive wall and score on the break. It can be fun to watch the more skilled team pass the ball back and forth to try to open spaces further ahead on the field. The more you watch it the more you like it.

By skilled I mean players that can dribble the ball better and create more for themselves. Some countries just have more of these players because kids play it every day in the street.

Of course sometimes both teams aren’t very skilled and the game sucks, just long inaccurate passes and trying to snag a goal from a loose ball..
 
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