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Jazz select Grayson Allen at 21

I'll go on record saying I don't hate the pick. I'm guessing his greatest attribute will be his ability to learn the system and then maximize his role in it. As has been said many times already, he played with a great number of players at Duke and adjusted his game to accentuate theirs.

It also makes me wonder what happens with Exum. Does this signal they won't match any and all offers?
 
SoUjazzfan said:
I'll go on record saying I don't hate the pick. I'm guessing his greatest attribute will be his ability to learn the system and then maximize his role in it. As has been said many times already, he played with a great number of players at Duke and adjusted his game to accentuate theirs.

It also makes me wonder what happens with Exum. Does this signal they won't match any and all offers?
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They were never matching any and all offers.

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NUMBERICA said:
They were never matching any and all offers.

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Technically correct. I should have said management has said they would love to keep him and will make every effort within reason to do so. I guess what I'm curious about is will it lower the offer they are willing to match.
 
With the 21st pick in the NBA draft teams normally get crap. One of the reasons i was excited this year was the depth. I truly believed and still do that this was a deep draft. I think the jazz took the safe pick when they should have gambled on potential. I think my frustration with the Allen pick is my belief that 3 players selected after Allen will eventually be much better than him.

So that i can be fairly judged in later years the 3 players i would have chosen before Allen are:
1. Elie Okobo (super high ceiling but he could also flop hard)
2. Anfernee Simons (same)
3. Chandler Hutchinson (shooter and athlete).

At 21 i would have risked the flop for a chance at greatness. I DONT think Allen is going to flop, but i just dont see the potential upside that I do with my choices.
 
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I'm not disappointed with the Allen pick at 21, per se. If the Jazz didn't want to draft Okobo, or Hutchison, or Robert Williams, then they have their reasons. They obviously scouted the **** out of Allen, and they wanted to draft him at #21. They weren't interested in trading back and picking up an asset.

If I'm disappointed, it's that the Jazz weren't able to move up into the teens to get someone with more upside, like Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown or Josh Okogie. All three of those guys have more upside longer term than Allen and could be legitimate starters in the league.

Grayson Allen will be good at what he does. He'll be a reliable 3-pt shooter. He'll play his *** off on defense. He'll handle and run the plays that Quin wants to run without conflicting with Donovan Mitchell. He'll be a good rotation player, and may be a piece of the puzzle. If he gets hot shooting the ball during a playoff series, he could make a difference to winning the series.

DL says that Allen has been a complementary player supporting the star players at Duke, and that's the role he'll have here. He's obviously well coached and is as NBA ready as anyone we were looking at.
 
Prediction:

Grayson will break DMs record for 3s made by a rookie.

15/4/4 for the year on 54/41/85 shooting splits.

Will finish top 5 in rookie of the year votes.
 
infection said:
Can we call him Man Hands?

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Hmmm... how about Sloan Hands?
 
oldtimer said:
With the 21st pick in the NBA draft teams normally get crap. One of the reasons i was excited this year was the depth. I truly believe and still do that this was a deep draft. I think the jazz took the safe pick when they should have gambled on potential. I think my frustration with the Allen pick is my belief that 3 players selected after Allen will eventually be much better than him.

So that i can be fairly judged in later years the 3 players i would have chosen before Allen are:
1. Elie Okobo (super high ceiling but he could also flop hard)
2. Anfernee Simons (same)
3. Chandler Hutchinson (shooter and athlete).

At 21 i would have risked the flop for a chance at greatness. I DONT think Allen is going to flop, but i just dont see the potential upside that I do with my choices.
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OK, now you have to pick one, just like the Jazz did. Which one of these will be better than Allen?
 
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