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Where would Jimmer go in a non-weak draft?

green said:
Ummm. Let's see:

2009- 2011
1- Griffin - Irving
2- Thabeet - Williams
3- Harden - Knight
4- Evans - Kantor
5- Rubio - Vesley
6- Flynn - Walker
7- Curry - Leonard
8- Hill - Valanciunas
9- DeRosan - Biyombo
10- Jennings - Burks
11- Williams - Thompson
12- Henderson - Morris
13- Hansborough - Singleton
14- Clark - Hamilton
15- Daye - Jimmer
16- Johnson - Motiejunas
17- Holliday - Thompson
18- Lawson - Morris
19- Teague - Harris
20- Maynor - Faried

I would say the only player 8-13 that might get drafted higher this year then Psycho T would be Burks. So, I would say yes. In this year's draft there is a fantastic chance T goes top 8. I would be shocked it T fell past 9 or 10 in this year's draft.

Now, where would Jimmer go in 2009? We know in 2010 Jimmer couldn't get a commit from any team and there is a great chance that last year he was a second round pick. What did Jimmer do from this year to last? Other than confirm he is a good shooter, he didn't show anything new to scouts. He didn't defend better, be a better passer, more rebounds, etc. So, you know what Jimmer is going to be in all likely hood: Eddie House.

Here is 2009 again and if Jimmer would be picked instead:

1- Griffin - No
2- Thabeet - No
3- Harden - No
4- Evans - No
5- Rubio - No
6- Flynn - No
7- Curry - No
8- Hill - No
9- DeRosan - No
10- Jennings - No
11- Williams - No
12- Henderson - No
13- Hansborough - No
14- Clark - No
15- Daye - No
16- Johnson - No
17- Holliday - No
18- Lawson - No
19- Teague - No
20- Maynor - Maybe - basically because it is Utah
21- Collison - No
22- From here, I can't remember enough about any of these guys to say. So, I guess, in my opinion, the weaker draft really helps Jimmer out. The last two years Jimmer may not even be a first round pick. I still wouldn't be surprised if Jimmer falls fast in this draft is the Jazz do not take him. I will say that the weakness of this draft is worth around 5 slots (which ironically, is about how many players pulled out of this draft). I would also say that the extremely high amount of publicity Jimmer received has boosted his stock for the moment. He has gone from maybe a late first rounder to second round pick to a lottery pick. It is the perfect storm for Jimmer this year.
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Betting Jimmer has a better career than a lot of those Nos you have listed.
 
Is this draft really that weak? It feels more like this year just doesn't have any franchise players like Durant, Griffin, Lebron, etc.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
Is this draft really that weak? It feels more like this year just doesn't have any franchise players like Durant, Griffin, Lebron, etc.
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There is definitely a lot of quality players in the draft. Also finally have a lot of intl guys who can be good players. The big problem is the lack of a few guys who you can see as superstars. So not the best year do have a high draft pick. At 3 and 12 we can definitely get two guys who can be starters in 2-3 years.
 
I think in general, this draft is a +5 spot increase. Guys like Knight who will probably go in the top 7-10 would typically go in the teens.

However, sometimes the draft is a little more complicated. Had Jimmer entered the draft the year Dwill, CP3, and Felton entered, he may not have gone until the late 1st early 2nd round. In other drafts, like this one, where there aren't any "franchise" PGs (sorry, I don't believe Irving is the next Drose), he'd go in the teens to early 20s (like Ty Lawson).
 
There is some simple math here folks. In Colton's roll up of the mock's, Jimmer is at 15. He has been 16 more than any other spot and as high as 13. The roll-up average is a nice summation of a number of draft boards. This draft had 4 guys drop out who were in everyone's top 10 before dropping out. Even before those folks dropped out, this was called a weak draft by virtually all of the prognosticators. That means in a better draft, we would have another 4-6 players fighting for a lottery spot.

Clearly the mocks are wrong and sometimes by a long ways. Look at where Hoffa got drafted or Tim Tebow in the NFL last year. It happens and it could happen to Freddy. However, if one goes with averages, it is pretty straight forward.
 
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