Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

[LoPo]

$35 for who? I dont see a single player worth $35 outside of Klay, Kawhi, or KD.

I'm fine with Butler or Tobias at $25, but hesitate at going higher than that.

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[TheStormofWar]

We just need to be able to get to around 35M in a reasonable fashion (unless we make an acquisition this season). We just need one max spot if someone says yes.

So many paths to that I think, so won't be an issue there.

 

[MDAV28]

Think my math got funky somewhere, but that's about right, sorry. The Jazz have guarantees to Gobert, Ingles, Exum, Crowder, and Allen next year. We absolutely do NOT cut Mitchell and Royce. We're at 61.7, assuming we cut others and don't re-up everything else, so I've have that as a bout 46m. The issue we're going to run into is cap holds, which I don't even want to think about.

We just need to be able to get to around 35M in a reasonable fashion (unless we make an acquisition this season). We just need one max spot if someone says yes.

It's minimal but you have to add in incomplete roster charges which would be about $4.5 million. I have it (with Exum projected at flat $11 million) at about $41.3 million in space assuming we renounce every cap hold and unguaranteed guys (other than Mitch and Royce which are locks as you mention). But that's the extremely tricky part about retaining a $33 million max spot is Ricky. He obviously is going to warrant more than $8 million...

 

[mellow]

Does Patrick Mccaw suck... haven't heard of a team interested in him... seems like someone would at least make GS pay some additional tax.

Seems like the owners and GM's are not playing that game against each other this year. Several teams could have offered Clint Capela a huge deal knowing the Rockets would be forced to match because he was a huge part of Houston's success. This would have driven them deep into luxury tax.

As I recall no-one offered on Capella, Exum, McCaw, Aaron Gordon, Jabarri, Marcus Smart, Zach Lavine, Hood, to name a few.

I find it interesting because the players can get together to recruit each other for super teams, but the owners can't get together and agree to not drive up the salaries by refusing to offer on RFA's--that is called collusion.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Take this with a grain of salt as apparently Steven A. Smith was the first to say it. And if the price is that cheap, Utah better ante up.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It's minimal but you have to add in incomplete roster charges which would be about $4.5 million. I have it (with Exum projected at flat $11 million) at about $41.3 million in space assuming we renounce every cap hold and unguaranteed guys (other than Mitch and Royce which are locks as you mention). But that's the extremely tricky part about retaining a $33 million max spot is Ricky. He obviously is going to warrant more than $8 million...

Correct... If we sign someone with space it may mean one of Ricky or Dante are gone or Crowder. Will be interesting.

 

[MDAV28]

Correct... If we sign someone with space it may mean one of Ricky or Dante are gone or Crowder. Will be interesting.

Definitely seems like the most appealing option would be to trade Crowder into space if that were the case, then you could offer Ricky about 15-16 and still have a max slot, while losing Favors & Crowder.

Then you'd have a "big three" of a max-level guy, Mitch, Gobert and supporting cast of Ricky, Exum, Royce, Ingles, Allen.

All hypothetical... if we could even sign a star which seems very unlikely. I had hopes for Kawhi before he somehow turned into a guy that only wants a big market.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Definitely seems like the most appealing option would be to trade Crowder into space if that were the case, then you could offer Ricky about 15-16 and still have a max slot, while losing Favors & Crowder.

Then you'd have a "big three" of a max-level guy, Mitch, Gobert and supporting cast of Ricky, Exum, Royce, Ingles, Allen.

All hypothetical... if we could even sign a star which seems very unlikely. I had hopes for Kawhi before he somehow turned into a guy that only wants a big market.

Might even be able to figure out Harris and Ricky in the 41M range combined. I don't think we get a super duper star, more like middleton or Harris. I think there is a relatively good chance Harris becomes available during the season at a relative bargain. I think the Clips out performed their talent level last year and without DJ they slide. The also will likely be playing rookies where guys like Rivers were playing last year which will hurt them.

There are a few team on the "brink" of a tear down or remodel that may do so during the season. Ones I'm most interested in are the Wiz, Blazers, Clips, Cavs, Magic, Wolves. I expect the Bucks are good and if they let Parker/Bledsoe go they don't have a huge salary crunch and will retain Middleton.

 

[Jingled]

Thankfully, I think the Jazz are a lot higher on AB than a lot of posters on here. Wouldn't be surprised if he's back after his contract expires. At maybe a little less than what he was at. He looked pretty close to pre injury AB to me at the end of season.

High on him? He can't even crack Quins rotation. There's no way AB's on the Jazz after next season.

 

[mellow]

Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.

 

[MDAV28]

Might even be able to figure out Harris and Ricky in the 41M range combined. I don't think we get a super duper star, more like middleton or Harris. I think there is a relatively good chance Harris becomes available during the season at a relative bargain. I think the Clips out performed their talent level last year and without DJ they slide. The also will likely be playing rookies where guys like Rivers were playing last year which will hurt them.

There are a few team on the "brink" of a tear down or remodel that may do so during the season. Ones I'm most interested in are the Wiz, Blazers, Clips, Cavs, Magic, Wolves. I expect the Bucks are good and if they let Parker/Bledsoe go they don't have a huge salary crunch and will retain Middleton.

The question at this point is if that is worth it to "settle" for Harris because you need super duper stars. That team and core would be locked in. We'd need huge jumps internally.

Jazz may position themselves to just guarantee Favors if they couldn't get the star and retry next season. We have 19 and 20 with Mitch and O'Neale on insanely cheap deals to try and sign a star.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.

CJ? I'd take CJ in a second.