Joe Bagadonuts
Well-Known Member
Interesting. You think there is a chance that Strozk is going to be judged as a patriot for weaponizing a government agency against a political candidate? Will he be lauded for lying in his testimony to congress? Will people be grateful for his arrogant demeanor when hiding the truth from our elected lawmakers?Really, I doubt you'll love this answer, but it's History that will judge all this. It depends in part at what Mueller delivers to Rosenstein, whether Rosenstein decides to release what Mueller brings to the public, whether he then turns it over to Congress and what happens at that point. Everything that is happening,and happened, is part of a story that we don't really know the full outline as yet. I mean, if Trump turned out to be an actual asset of Putin and Russia, the judgement on these FBI agents will not be the same as if the whole thing was truly a nothingburger.
There were plenty of loyalists during our War of Independence. They may have thought, have judged, that the colonists forming Committees of Correspondence to coordinate responses to actions by the Crown, (in that instance, forming the Committees was one reaction to the Crown demanding that the colonists who burned the HMS Gaspee in 1772 be turned over to the Crown) were acting as traitors. Yet, as we know History judged quite differently, as a new nation was born.
Until we know how this plays out, we really don't know how History will judge all the players, large and small. Sure, on the surface, you can say well, we don't want FBI agents acting politically, but until we know what actually happened in the 2016 election, we citizens are still largely in the dark, and History's judgement is only clearest in hindsight. Time will tell, but I understand if these arguments fall on deaf ears or if they are rejected as disingenuous somehow.
Does it seem strange to you that Page has already testified that she's unaware of any evidence of collusion? Would it be okay with you if we ultimately discover that the Russian Collusion angle was nothing but a strategy cooked up by insiders to stop Trump, and that there was no factual basis on which to open this investigation?
Although I definitely don't agree with all of your accusations toward him, I agree with you that Trump is not what we should expect of an American president. To me, thought, that doesn't change the fact that he is our president. It was a crazy set of circumstances that empowered Trump, and an even crazier one that put him up against such a disastrous candidate as Hillary Clinton. I have a hard time believing that things wouldn't have played out better had government insiders not played such a partisan role in trying to protect Hillary and damage Trump.