Culturally Insensitive man bets a million dollars...

[Alfalfa]

I sympathize because I also have Native American ancestry. Not directly, but I share African ancestry with the Native Americans a few thousand generations back.

 

[One Brow]

As much as I hate Trump, calling her Pocahontas is a pretty good ringer. Especially after bragging about her DNA test. No one cares if you're 1/512 of something. That said, Trump should pay her.

Once again, we find our middle-of-the-road, just-looking-for-information poster parroting right-wing talking points.

I totally thought there was no way in hell liberals would be apologists for a 99% white lady touting/defending she's a minority and has been recognized as a minority at Harvard. Isn't that whitesplaining (I think that's the term I'm looking for?)

Whitesplaining is white people telling minorities what it means to be a minority, how they should feel about being minority, how they are treated as a minority, etc., when the minority has a life's worth of experience in these matters.

If it's not, it's culture appropriation to the T.
"Cultural appropriation is the adoption of elements of a minority culture by members of the dominant culture. Because of the presence of power imbalances that are a byproduct of colonialism and oppression, cultural appropriation is distinct from equal cultural exchange." She wrote a book called, Pow Wow Chow. Lol

A book sponsored by the Cherokee tribe and with contributions issued on requests of Cherokees.

Don't try to use terms you think are buzzwords. You're really bad at it.

 

[JimLes]

After she leaves he turns to me and says “what the ****s a lamanite?”

 

[framer]

10 generations back Barack Obama and I share a grandmother. Should I be offended if I don't get an invite when his girls get married?

 

[Deleted member 5000]

What the **** is a lemenite?

Im 1\32 cherokee card carrying member thought it might relavent to this thread, hasnt got me ****

 

[Jack Strop]

Trump made the rash statement and should pay up. But he won't.

 

[framer]

The current Chief of the Cherokee is 1/32 Cherokee and has 31/32 European ancestors. That's 5 generations and based on his age, the Cherokee ancestor in question was born around 1800. That's actually fairly close to the lower range of where Warren's ancestor is. If the Cherokee accept him not just as a member but have elected him chief, who are you to say it's disingenuous?

The actual Cherokee nation says its disingenuous, for starters:

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."​

http://cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test

Waiting on a moron to whitesplain to the Cherokee Nation why they should not be offended by what Elizabeth Warren has done. . .

 

[Stoked]

One way ticket to fract town. @JimLes

Also, lol at that video.

 

[Zombie]

The actual Cherokee nation says its disingenuous, for starters:

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."​

http://cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test

Waiting on a moron to whitesplain to the Cherokee Nation why they should not be offended by what Elizabeth Warren has done. . .

At the risk of Whitesplaining something, Warren isn't laying claim to tribal heritage or membership.

 

[Gameface]

All I'm saying is she's told people, including Harvard, she's Native American and that seems a bit questionable.

What's so hard to understand about that?

I really want to see that she has been the one running around making a big deal out of her Native American ancestry. Not that she has mentioned it or whatever, or that she believed her mother when she was told they had Native American Ancestry, but that she went around acting like she had a strong connection to Native American culture and heritage. In this entire thread I haven't really seen anything indicating that she has been out and about touting her Native American roots.

If Trump hadn't been calling her Pocahontas I never would have heard anything about this and might not even know who she was.

 

[framer]

At the risk of Whitesplaining something, Warren isn't laying claim to tribal heritage or membership.

Except that the representatives of the Cherokee Nation think otherwise. Tell them they are wrong for being offended. Go ahead, I'll wait. . .

 

[Archie Moses]

Once again, we find our middle-of-the-road, just-looking-for-information poster parroting right-wing talking points.

I like the part where you make it seem like "looking for information" is a bad thing on a discussion forum. Or that being "middle of the road" is bad too. If she was a conservative, liberals would lose their **** and guess what? I'd say the same thing about the Republican.

A book sponsored by the Cherokee tribe and with contributions issued on requests of Cherokees.

Don't try to use terms you think arebuzzwords. You're really bad at it.

Smh... "A book sponsored by Cherokees at the the requist of Cherokees."

Actually, hold up, numb numb. The Cherokees err... "Cherokee" you speak of is Mrs. James P. Rowsey. Who happens to be Elizabeth’s first cousin and... and... wait... wait... (it gets better) shares the same grandparents in question as Warren's heritage.

In other words, there's nothing like having a 1/512 Cherokee ask her family member who's also 1/512 Cherokee to write a recipe book for Cherokees. Then the 99% white Cherokee lady goes on and steals 3/5 of the recipes from the NYTs and actually names the book Pow Wow Chow. "Sounds like a solid pick and great way of representing Cherokees." -Said white liberals

But there's no cultural appropriation. Lol. You can't make this **** up.

“How white is your college that when you get called out for being too white, your response is, “Nuh-uh! We’ve got her! Yo Elizabeth, show these white folks what it is,’”
-Trevor Noah parroting "right wing" talking points.

Btw, you're terrible at pinning me and your assumptions are beyond poor. I'd give you like a 4.7 out of 10. Chin up though, chap. That's just an F.


P.S. thank you for answering what whitesplaing is when I questioned what it was (I'm learning these things, dude. It's a process lol) then go on to tell me, in the most holier than though tone, I'm bad at buzzwords while you airball your point... hard.



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