The Caravan

[JAZZGASM]

I suppose my confusion is that, if they are not subject to our jurisdiction, how can we say they have to obey our laws? Is "subject to a jurisdiction" a special term of art that only means "has loyalty to"?

For purposes of the 14th amendment, the "subject to a jurisdiction" is a term of art. It has been argued that the phrase "subject to a jurisdiction" should not include people that are citizens of another nation. It does not mean that a non-citizen here illegally cannot be punished for breaking the law here. These is limited case law on this issue AFAIK, so it isn't a black and white thing. I'd recommend reading the ARK case and dissent.

 

[One Brow]

For purposes of the 14th amendment, the "subject to a jurisdiction" is a term of art. It has been argued that the phrase "subject to a jurisdiction" should not include people that are citizens of another nation. It does not mean that a non-citizen here illegally cannot be punished for breaking the law here. These is limited case law on this issue AFAIK, so it isn't a black and white thing. I'd recommend reading the ARK case and dissent.

Thank you.

 

[Harambe]

Seeing what he done, so far.... I'm not very worried. He cleaned up those cages Obama built and is working towards some efficient and humane way to deal with the issue.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You must mean utilize cages previous administration's built, most of which under Gdub's authority, and built more.

Two billion worth of extra cages and cost of detainment. $750 a day per child store from their parents.12,800 children still in lock up as of September.

But since you're obsessed with Obama the average length of stay under his watch was 22 days. 34 under donnie. Before Obama took over, 363 centers were in use. By the end of 2016, just over 200.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_detention_sites_in_the_United_States

https://www.freedomforimmigrants.org/detention-statistics/

You've always been off your rocker. But FFS, I think you've fallen through a hole in the space time continuum this time.

"he's cleaning up Obamas mess" Is Bigger lie than "he personally made peace with North Korea"

 

[Zombie]

Holy **** these people look incredibly dangerous. Thank god for Donald Trump sending thousands of troops to protect us from this threat.

 

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[str8line]

Trump today encouraged our soldiers to respond with force if caravaners throw rocks, setting the stage for bloodshed. His hate has really gone through the roof this week. Why not try to diffuse the situation?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Trump today encouraged our soldiers to respond with force if caravaners throw rocks. Setting the stage for bloodshed.

That pig! He should have told them to take their helmets off and try to get hit in the head.

 

[Zombie]

That pig! He should have told them to take their helmets off and try to get hit in the head.

OK last one. Ordering soldiers to fire on civilians armed with rocks is a war crime, just an FYI.

 

[str8line]

That pig! He should have told them to take their helmets off and try to get hit in the head.

Yeah, because without Trumps advice that's exactly what they would do.

 

[Rubashov]

Trump today encouraged our soldiers to respond with force if caravaners throw rocks, setting the stage for bloodshed. His hate has really gone through the roof this week. Why not try to diffuse the situation?

I would assume that professional soldiers would show restraint and decency, unlike their Commander in Chief. Additionally most of the officers and NCOs would be well aware of their legal obligations, I would expect them to handle it like any other humanitarian situation.

 

[One Brow]

Trump today encouraged our soldiers to respond with force if caravaners throw rocks, setting the stage for bloodshed. His hate has really gone through the roof this week. Why not try to diffuse the situation?

Because the caravan is over a month away, and the elections are next week.

 

[str8line]

Because the caravan is over a month away, and the elections are next week.

Well you could argue he's doing it to rally his base for the election, but he probably sees this as a great time to float the most insane power trips just to test the blowback. Constantly testing.

What's gnarly is he's like a parent who teaches his kids(his base) aggression(hate); eventually the kids act out on that aggression. We're only two years in. He's not gonna stop after the election.

Trump would absolutely love a civil war should he lose the next election, if he makes it that far.

I am well aware of how preposterous that statement sounds. The man is DRNUk with power.