Wow, thanks for the update man, I'm gonna Youtube the fight tonight. I'll let you know who I think should have won, LOL ...
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Wow, thanks for the update man, I'm gonna Youtube the fight tonight. I'll let you know who I think should have won, LOL ...
Ok just had time to watch this.
1st round: Rungvisai (Choco got knocked down)
2nd round: Rungvisai
3rd round: Choco
4th round: Choco
5th round: Choco
6th round: Choco
7th round: draw
8th round: Choco
9th round: Rungvisai
10th round: draw
11th round: Rungvisai
12th round: Rungvisai
So by my count it's 5-5 with 2 draws. Yes I agree Choco landed significantly more punches in the 3rd - 8th rounds, but if you're looking at it round by round it was very close. To me Rungvisai finished better of the 2 fighters and I guess that could have swayed the decision.
Also I've gotta say Rungvisai to me looks like the more skilled fighter. Choco landed more punches for sure and looks stronger and faster, but Rungvisai to me had better form and skills, and in a close fight like this if I was the judge I'd have to give it to the guy who looks a better boxer than the guy who landed the most punches.
Game6Conley
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Big news in the world of Boxing today!!!!! If Andre Ward took any other fight it would've been a sham. I think Kovalev is gonna beat him (again)
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I'm hearing there's a press conference Monday to formally announce @andreward vs. @KrusherKovalev. Fight could be publicly announced today.
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I'm hearing there's a press conference Monday to formally announce @andreward vs. @KrusherKovalev. Fight could be publicly announced today.
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Just a couple of weeks following his life-changing win over former pound-for-pound king Roman Gonzalez, Srisaket Sor Rungvisai will have to repeat the feat in order to prove it legit. According to a report from ESPN, the WBC has just ruled that Sor Rungvisai must give Gonzalez an immediate rematch following a request from Gonzalez’s co-promoters Teiken and K2.
Sor Rungvisai was able nick a majority decision win over Gonzalez on the undercard of Golovkin-Jacobs with official scores of 114-112, 114-112 and 113-113, while many observers felt that Gonzalez, despite suffering an early knockdown, did enough to earn the win. Both Scott Christ and myself separately scored the fight 114-112 in favor of Gonzalez for Bad Left Hook.
In reality it was a genuinely close and grueling battle in which Gonzalez sustained two significant cuts caused by accidental head-butts (which is pretty common in fights between orthodox and southpaw fighters). But in this case the WBC uses those cuts as their one of their main justifications for ordering and immediate rematch between Gonzalez and Sor Rungvisai, stating in their ruling:
"The WBC Board of Governors considers that due to the extraordinary fight, which was extremely close, and considering that the WBC championship rules regarding accidental head butts were not used, but most importantly, considering the public demand to witness once again a great match between these two great fighters, the WBC has granted the request by unanimous vote to order the rematch between Sor Rungvisai and Gonzalez," WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said in a statement.
Now these supposed rules regarding accidental head-butts are where things get pretty interesting. Apparently there is a WBC rule that states that if one fighter sustains a cut by way of an accidental head-butt, the uncut fighter is to be penalized a point. Now I have never, ever seen such a thing happen, and apparently for good reason. ESPN’s Dan Rafael mentions that this obscure rule is not one that’s used in the United States — except for in this particular instance, it would appear.
It’s a little hard not to infer that the WBC is playing favorites here, but considering it really was a good fight and a debatable decision, I won’t get too bent out of shape over this. I will say, however, that if the shoe was on the other foot, you could bet your bottom dollar Sor Rungvisai wouldn’t be getting this immediate rematch.
That aside, the second installment of Gonzalez-Sor Rungvisai isn’t expected to come off until later this year as both fighters need some time to lick their wounds. Doctors recommend at least two months rest for Gonzalez’s cuts to heal properly and K2 promoter Tom Loeffler mentions to RingTV that the Fall will likely be the landing spot for the rematch.
Of course this WBC ruling also has a trickle-down effect. Carlos Cuadras was slated to become the mandatory challenger for the Gonzalez-Sor Rungvisai winner, but because of the WBC’s ruling, and because Gonzalez and Sor Rungvisai will be healing up for the next couple months, the WBC instead orders Cuadras to take on Juan Francisco Estrada for a vacant interim title. And the sanctioning body is more than pleased with itself...
"The WBC is very pleased with this ruling that will provide a series of great fights in the (junior bantamweight) division, which is very important for boxing and for the boxers," Sulaiman said.
Tell me, fans, what do you make of these rulings?
Just a couple of weeks following his life-changing win over former pound-for-pound king Roman Gonzalez, Srisaket Sor Rungvisai will have to repeat the feat in order to prove it legit. According to a report from ESPN, the WBC has just ruled that Sor Rungvisai must give Gonzalez an immediate rematch following a request from Gonzalez’s co-promoters Teiken and K2.
Sor Rungvisai was able nick a majority decision win over Gonzalez on the undercard of Golovkin-Jacobs with official scores of 114-112, 114-112 and 113-113, while many observers felt that Gonzalez, despite suffering an early knockdown, did enough to earn the win. Both Scott Christ and myself separately scored the fight 114-112 in favor of Gonzalez for Bad Left Hook.
In reality it was a genuinely close and grueling battle in which Gonzalez sustained two significant cuts caused by accidental head-butts (which is pretty common in fights between orthodox and southpaw fighters). But in this case the WBC uses those cuts as their one of their main justifications for ordering and immediate rematch between Gonzalez and Sor Rungvisai, stating in their ruling:
"The WBC Board of Governors considers that due to the extraordinary fight, which was extremely close, and considering that the WBC championship rules regarding accidental head butts were not used, but most importantly, considering the public demand to witness once again a great match between these two great fighters, the WBC has granted the request by unanimous vote to order the rematch between Sor Rungvisai and Gonzalez," WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said in a statement.
Now these supposed rules regarding accidental head-butts are where things get pretty interesting. Apparently there is a WBC rule that states that if one fighter sustains a cut by way of an accidental head-butt, the uncut fighter is to be penalized a point. Now I have never, ever seen such a thing happen, and apparently for good reason. ESPN’s Dan Rafael mentions that this obscure rule is not one that’s used in the United States — except for in this particular instance, it would appear.
It’s a little hard not to infer that the WBC is playing favorites here, but considering it really was a good fight and a debatable decision, I won’t get too bent out of shape over this. I will say, however, that if the shoe was on the other foot, you could bet your bottom dollar Sor Rungvisai wouldn’t be getting this immediate rematch.
That aside, the second installment of Gonzalez-Sor Rungvisai isn’t expected to come off until later this year as both fighters need some time to lick their wounds. Doctors recommend at least two months rest for Gonzalez’s cuts to heal properly and K2 promoter Tom Loeffler mentions to RingTV that the Fall will likely be the landing spot for the rematch.
Of course this WBC ruling also has a trickle-down effect. Carlos Cuadras was slated to become the mandatory challenger for the Gonzalez-Sor Rungvisai winner, but because of the WBC’s ruling, and because Gonzalez and Sor Rungvisai will be healing up for the next couple months, the WBC instead orders Cuadras to take on Juan Francisco Estrada for a vacant interim title. And the sanctioning body is more than pleased with itself...
"The WBC is very pleased with this ruling that will provide a series of great fights in the (junior bantamweight) division, which is very important for boxing and for the boxers," Sulaiman said.
Tell me, fans, what do you make of these rulings?
Game6Conley
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Just a couple of weeks following his life-changing win over former pound-for-pound king Roman Gonzalez, Srisaket Sor Rungvisai will have to repeat the feat in order to prove it legit. According to a report from ESPN, the WBC has just ruled that Sor Rungvisai must give Gonzalez an immediate rematch following a request from Gonzalez’s co-promoters Teiken and K2.
Sor Rungvisai was able nick a majority decision win over Gonzalez on the undercard of Golovkin-Jacobs with official scores of 114-112, 114-112 and 113-113, while many observers felt that Gonzalez, despite suffering an early knockdown, did enough to earn the win. Both Scott Christ and myself separately scored the fight 114-112 in favor of Gonzalez for Bad Left Hook.
In reality it was a genuinely close and grueling battle in which Gonzalez sustained two significant cuts caused by accidental head-butts (which is pretty common in fights between orthodox and southpaw fighters). But in this case the WBC uses those cuts as their one of their main justifications for ordering and immediate rematch between Gonzalez and Sor Rungvisai, stating in their ruling:
"The WBC Board of Governors considers that due to the extraordinary fight, which was extremely close, and considering that the WBC championship rules regarding accidental head butts were not used, but most importantly, considering the public demand to witness once again a great match between these two great fighters, the WBC has granted the request by unanimous vote to order the rematch between Sor Rungvisai and Gonzalez," WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said in a statement.
Now these supposed rules regarding accidental head-butts are where things get pretty interesting. Apparently there is a WBC rule that states that if one fighter sustains a cut by way of an accidental head-butt, the uncut fighter is to be penalized a point. Now I have never, ever seen such a thing happen, and apparently for good reason. ESPN’s Dan Rafael mentions that this obscure rule is not one that’s used in the United States — except for in this particular instance, it would appear.
It’s a little hard not to infer that the WBC is playing favorites here, but considering it really was a good fight and a debatable decision, I won’t get too bent out of shape over this. I will say, however, that if the shoe was on the other foot, you could bet your bottom dollar Sor Rungvisai wouldn’t be getting this immediate rematch.
That aside, the second installment of Gonzalez-Sor Rungvisai isn’t expected to come off until later this year as both fighters need some time to lick their wounds. Doctors recommend at least two months rest for Gonzalez’s cuts to heal properly and K2 promoter Tom Loeffler mentions to RingTV that the Fall will likely be the landing spot for the rematch.
Of course this WBC ruling also has a trickle-down effect. Carlos Cuadras was slated to become the mandatory challenger for the Gonzalez-Sor Rungvisai winner, but because of the WBC’s ruling, and because Gonzalez and Sor Rungvisai will be healing up for the next couple months, the WBC instead orders Cuadras to take on Juan Francisco Estrada for a vacant interim title. And the sanctioning body is more than pleased with itself...
"The WBC is very pleased with this ruling that will provide a series of great fights in the (junior bantamweight) division, which is very important for boxing and for the boxers," Sulaiman said.
Tell me, fans, what do you make of these rulings?
Damn...
So you're telling me that if in a fight there was a cut and it was close, there will always be an immediate re-match as soon as possible?!?! The winner should at least get some time to cherish the win should he not?
Wow, OK. I don't usually follow boxing but that seems pretty out of the ordinary, no?
Game6Conley
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Not out of the ordinary at all. It's not always, but once a fighter reaches Chocolatito status, it's pretty much always. (#1 PFP in the world)
It's a clause written into the contract from the initial fight.
Like the Klitcshko-Fury rematch (that's never gonna happen because of Fury's drug issue)... I mean, Wlad certainly fought their first match like he was gonna have a re-match no matter what, his workrate was unfathomably low..
Game6Conley
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The best fighters from the Ukraine are gonna be on HBO tomorrow night; Usyk(WBO Cruiserweight champ, 2012 gold medalist), Lomachenko(Holds belts in 2 classes this is for Junior Lightweight and has the most insane amateur career ever) and Gvozdyk(NABF Light heavyweight champ).
I'd highly recommend catching those fights if u can. U will see some truly see some of the best fighters in the world at their weights.
Said it before, Usyk is the best cruiserweight since Evander Holyfield.
Game6Conley
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Heavyweight title on the line today !!!!!!! 4:15 EST on Showtime. I've got Joshua by KO in rd 9. Wlad looks to be in great shape for this, should be a war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU2VXJVPiFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU2VXJVPiFY
Duck Rodgers
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Weren't there rumors that Pacquiao and Lomochenko were going to fight in 2017? Nothing come of that?
Game6Conley
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You should watch the full fight. That was hands-down one of the greatest Heavyweight bouts I've ever witnessed. The stakes were super high too, some want to try and diminish that.
also one of the greatest venues I've ever seen for a fight. Thats was 90,000 people...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshabECrtSA
Game6Conley
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He should've showd up to fight like this against Tyson Fury and he'd have never had these problems and had his hand forced to go up against Joshua in his backyard..
I've seen tons of Wlad fights, he was really, really good. It is worth mentioning that the heavyweight division was pretty weak when he ruled tho..
I still think if you put prime Wlad vs Prime Vitali that Vitali would show much better than people expect. He had a better chin. There's no way Wlad would've showed as well at the time that Vitali fought Lennox.
Game6Conley
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Pacquiao doesn't want those problems, He'll get obliterated.. they just throw those names out there (same for T Crawford) to help build hype.
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candrew
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I was rooting for Wilder but Fury won the fight. I watched it twice and I had Fury winning 8 or 9 rounds. The only two rounds Wilder clearly won are the two knockdown rounds and maybe one or two other rounds.
And Fury coming back from that brutal knockdown in the 12th is other-worldly. When he hit the canvas I thought he was out cold - he not only got up he arguably won the rest of the round.
If there is a rematch Wilder is going into it knowing he hit this guy with his best shots and Fury kept coming at him - that's a huge psychological burden to bear.
Although Fury is mentally unstable (listen to his podcast with Joe Rogan - it's a miracle he's still alive let alone fighting at this level).
I wonder if he can keep it together for another 6 months or so until the next fight.