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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Exum deals... Assuming we want to move him for expiring salary. All of these deals assume that the acquirer think Exum has some potential/upside and just needs a different opportunity.

1- Atlanta - this makes the most sense. They believe in their development program... they have lots of space and can't take on enough salary dumps to fill all that space. I would hope to send Exum and TB (or just Exum) for Lin. I am not sure if they would require a different sweetner. I'm not sending a first, but I'd be willing to send a second... and the draft rights to Ante Tomic are all their if the want them. It might save them some money this year. They are above the salary floor this year, but next year may struggle to find good use of their space up to the floor. Getting him now would mean the development staff get an offseason to work with him.

2- Cleveland - Our old business partners. In the Delly-Henson/Hill deal they took on serious salary... for a pretty mediocre first (lots of protections and a few years into the future). They have been willing to eat salary for draft compensation. So we send Dante/Thabo and a second for JR Smith... who has a contract next year that is only $4M guaranteed. This would have to involve a 3rd team imo... but in its simplest form we could waive and stretch his salary for next year. If we were to waive him he may also reduce this year and next year's guarantee to pick his destination... so maybe he knocks a couple million off the guarantee for next year. I'm not sure on the waive and stretch rules if you buy a guy out or release him... there are some three team deals I think could work. (like maybe the clips and Gallo)

3- Chicago... if they just want to be done with Jabari and are willing to add some salary next year to do it. They might like Exum... although Dunn is a better version of Dante imo. Salary matching is tough... would likely be Exum/Thabo/TB. I highly doubt Chicago has any interest.

There are some others where we could take back more useful players that have contracts and there are some that I think we'd have to be pretty desperate to do.

I don't think management is looking to move him or dump his contract though.

Just to get @infection fired up...

Utah sends Dante, Favs, TB
Utah gets: Gallo and Beverly

Cleveland sends JR Smith
Cleveland gets Dante and TB

Clips send Gallo and Beverly
Clips get Smith and Favs (they can waive and stretch Smith and it's a cap hit of 1.3M) So saves them $20M or so next year.

We'd have to send draft compensation, maybe even a heavily protected first that converts to two seconds, to Clips in this scenario, but I think Cleveland gets a fair deal.
 
LoPo said:
I like it. Wouldn't most Jazz fans revolt if we traded beloved Favors AND we took on Gallinari's $20 million for next year?
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There would be many discussions about how old he is.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Exum deals... Assuming we want to move him for expiring salary. All of these deals assume that the acquirer think Exum has some potential/upside and just needs a different opportunity.

1- Atlanta - this makes the most sense. They believe in their development program... they have lots of space and can't take on enough salary dumps to fill all that space. I would hope to send Exum and TB (or just Exum) for Lin. I am not sure if they would require a different sweetner. I'm not sending a first, but I'd be willing to send a second... and the draft rights to Ante Tomic are all their if the want them. It might save them some money this year. They are above the salary floor this year, but next year may struggle to find good use of their space up to the floor. Getting him now would mean the development staff get an offseason to work with him.

2- Cleveland - Our old business partners. In the Delly-Henson/Hill deal they took on serious salary... for a pretty mediocre first (lots of protections and a few years into the future). They have been willing to eat salary for draft compensation. So we send Dante/Thabo and a second for JR Smith... who has a contract next year that is only $4M guaranteed. This would have to involve a 3rd team imo... but in its simplest form we could waive and stretch his salary for next year. If we were to waive him he may also reduce this year and next year's guarantee to pick his destination... so maybe he knocks a couple million off the guarantee for next year. I'm not sure on the waive and stretch rules if you buy a guy out or release him... there are some three team deals I think could work. (like maybe the clips and Gallo)

3- Chicago... if they just want to be done with Jabari and are willing to add some salary next year to do it. They might like Exum... although Dunn is a better version of Dante imo. Salary matching is tough... would likely be Exum/Thabo/TB. I highly doubt Chicago has any interest.

There are some others where we could take back more useful players that have contracts and there are some that I think we'd have to be pretty desperate to do.

I don't think management is looking to move him or dump his contract though.
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You're a moron. Exum oozes potential and you'll see that when someone else holds his hand out there on the floor.

Just to get @infection fired up...

Utah sends Dante, Favs, TB
Utah gets: Gallo and Beverly

Cleveland sends JR Smith
Cleveland gets Dante and TB

Clips send Gallo and Beverly
Clips get Smith and Favs (they can waive and stretch Smith and it's a cap hit of 1.3M) So saves them $20M or so next year.

We'd have to send draft compensation, maybe even a heavily protected first that converts to two seconds, to Clips in this scenario, but I think Cleveland gets a fair deal.[/QUOTE]

Hell yes. How do we get this done?
 
infection said:
You're a moron. Exum oozes potential and you'll see that when someone else holds his hand out there on the floor.

Just to get @infection fired up...

Utah sends Dante, Favs, TB
Utah gets: Gallo and Beverly

Cleveland sends JR Smith
Cleveland gets Dante and TB

Clips send Gallo and Beverly
Clips get Smith and Favs (they can waive and stretch Smith and it's a cap hit of 1.3M) So saves them $20M or so next year.

We'd have to send draft compensation, maybe even a heavily protected first that converts to two seconds, to Clips in this scenario, but I think Cleveland gets a fair deal.
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Hell yes. How do we get this done?[/QUOTE]

The same way I got Niang signed and Bolomboy cut... I have to declare it loud enough for Jazz executives to hear it at a game (summer league is preferable... but no time for that).

Gonna be hard to yell "Exum sucks... we should trade him for... (yada yada the trade details)" Maybe I make a poster and hold it up during the game with the phrase "It works in the trade machine"
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The same way I got Niang signed and Bolomboy cut... I have to declare it loud enough for Jazz executives to hear it at a game (summer league is preferable... but no time for that).

Gonna be hard to yell "Exum sucks... we should trade him for... (yada yada the trade details)" Maybe I make a poster and hold it up during the game with the phrase "It works in the trade machine"
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Yes. When do the Jazz play in Sac/GS next?
 
For the Hardaway peeps

https://nypost.com/2018/12/19/knicks-come-clean-on-dreaded-tim-hardaway-diagnosis/

Tim Hardaway Jr. has been playing with the dreaded plantar fasciitis in his right foot, a chronic heel ailment that could affect him the rest of the season, according to Knicks coach David Fizdale.

A slumping Hardaway will return to the lineup Wednesday, when the Knicks visit the Sixers after sitting out one game against the Suns with the sore heel. But this has been going on for more than a month.

“Plantar fasciitis is nagging,” Fizdale said at Wednesday’s morning shootaround at Wells Fargo Center. “Some days it aches so bad, you can’t move on it. Other days you can tolerate. He’s trying to manage it.”
 
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zyzz said:
For the Hardaway peeps

https://nypost.com/2018/12/19/knicks-come-clean-on-dreaded-tim-hardaway-diagnosis/

Tim Hardaway Jr. has been playing with the dreaded plantar fasciitis in his right foot, a chronic heel ailment that could affect him the rest of the season, according to Knicks coach David Fizdale.

A slumping Hardaway will return to the lineup Wednesday, when the Knicks visit the Sixers after sitting out one game against the Suns with the sore heel. But this has been going on for more than a month.

“Plantar fasciitis is nagging,” Fizdale said at Wednesday’s morning shootaround at Wells Fargo Center. “Some days it aches so bad, you can’t move on it. Other days you can tolerate. He’s trying to manage it.”
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Saw that... may be part of his terrible recent play. Kind of a red flag there... he's had nagging injuries in the past. That's gonna hurt their ability to move him.
 
Gallo is the only name that makes any sense to trade for, because he's actually legitimately really good and maybe on the fringes of attainable.
 
infection said:
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If we somehow moved Exum in a trade for Gallo we'd still have about $18M in space... might be enough to get Bledsoe or Brogdon. Could get close to a max deal if we moved on from Crowder and Korver without taking back salary.
 
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