Jazz discussing #3 for #6, #18

[billyshelby]

Who do you guys think is more tradable before the season begins? Whether it's during the draft or shortly after? Kanter or Knight? I would hope at the 3 pick we wouldn't be stuck with anyone - at least early on.

Once a draft pick is signed, you can't trade him until like December. So by the time you conclude the draft, you know who you're going forward with.

 

[BENTLEY]

Jazz gave up less then #6 and #18 to get Deron. if i rmember it was #6 and #22 i think?

Jazz gave Portland #6, #27, and the following year's first round pick (acquired from the Pistons in Arroyo deal).

I would want a first round pick for next year.

 

[bluenote]

Once a draft pick is signed, you can't trade him until like December. So by the time you conclude the draft, you know who you're going forward with.

ok - good to know.

 

[Bodhi]

Jazz gave up less then #6 and #18 to get Deron. if i rmember it was #6 and #22 i think?

Regardless, thats a TERRIBLE trade on our part, IMO. I'd much rather risk it with Kanter or Knight than 6/12/18. You win in this league with high draft picks.

As has been said before, the last thing this team needs is 3 guaranteed contracts, especially from this draft.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

You don't ****ing give up a #3 lottery pick for a couple later picks or other trade-down value, that's exactly the same move the Blazers made in the Deron Williams draft. They also thought they were getting comparable talent.

- Craig

Amen to this. Not that KOC would care, but man I'd be pissed if he did this. The Blazers thought they were so clever and boy did it bite them in the ***. Keep the damned #3 pick.

(Not that I put a whole lot of credence in this rumor.)

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Jazz gave up less then #6 and #18 to get Deron. if i rmember it was #6 and #22 i think?

And another pick, I think #28.

We also know how well it turned out for Portland, don't we?

It's not enough value. I stick to the #6 and unprotected next year. Won't happen, but I'm okay with the third pick in this draft.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Regardless, thats a TERRIBLE trade on our part, IMO. I'd much rather risk it with Kanter or Knight than 6/12/18. You win in this league with high draft picks.

As has been said before, the last thing this team needs is 3 guaranteed contracts, especially from this draft.

i agree 100%.

but maybe we're missing something in regards to the current CBA and whatever succeeds it. could it be that this year's picks are more valuable than future picks for some CBA-related reason? a grandfather clause for existing contracts, for example? just a thought.

 

[somebody]

Amen to this. Not that KOC would care, but man I'd be pissed if he did this. The Blazers thought they were so clever and boy did it bite them in the ***. Keep the damned #3 pick.

(Not that I put a whole lot of credence in this rumor.)

The difference is that the Blazers knew with 100% certainty that they were giving up Deron/Paul. In this situation, drafting Knight is still a very real possibility if we trade down. It's bad strategy to take a guy at 3 who almost certainly would not go 4. If this were the 23rd pick, then yeah, who cares about trading down a few spots for maximum gain, but this is the 3rd pick. We need to milk it for all its worth.

 

[utahjazz107]

Jimmer at 6, Singleton at 12, then package Millsap and the 18 pick for Josh Smith? I like it.

Except Josh Smith is way overrated and a head-case. I think Millsap is a better player than him by comparing their stats. Why would we trade a PF for another PF?

 

[Justys]

Smith > Millsap in my eyes

 

[Justys]

The difference is that the Blazers knew with 100% certainty that they were giving up Deron/Paul. In this situation, drafting Knight is still a very real possibility if we trade down. It's bad strategy to take a guy at 3 who almost certainly would not go 4. If this were the 23rd pick, then yeah, who cares about trading down a few spots for maximum gain, but this is the 3rd pick. We need to milk it for all its worth.

Agreed with this ^

 

[BENTLEY]

It's not enough value. I stick to the #6 and unprotected next year. Won't happen, but I'm okay with the third pick in this draft.

Ooh, I would trade the #3 for the #6 + their unprotected first next year.