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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

I’m not a big fan of either deal unless Hornet ponies up 2 juicy picks or 1 juicy pick and Bridges.

We can say that a mid tier pick isn’t valuable but plenty of guys drafted from 10-30 have become great... low odds of course but not much lower than us signing a potential all star imo.

I wouldn’t give up those picks and would look for opportunities to acquire those... Batum is too spendy but he’s kind of intriguing if you think he isn’t washed... he might be, but Love might be too.

If a first and expirings is the minimum that Cleveland will accept then they better get ready to have him for a long time.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Anytime you set the timeline back as a GM, it's a safe move. You are prolonging your job security and the delaying the criticism.

Trading for Batum to get younger pieces and draft assets moves the timeline back and delays blame on DL.

Taking away cap-space means DL can't fail in signing in a starter level FA.

Saying "We need to let Bridges/draft pick develop" buys you time (though I don't think Bridges is attainable the way you laid it out. At best it'd be Monk and a 1st round pick).

It's all very safe.

Risk is putting something on the line. Trading for Love or Porter is putting a stake in the ground and say this is what we are and how we are going to compete. You have advocated against the safe moves when you want to argue with someone.
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Might be safe in our market because we believe in continuity but if you want to talk job preservation for GMs selling off picks for win now pieces is kind of the go to move.

I don’t think DL worries too much about job security... I think he feels pretty safe. Even if it went south another team would likely hire him quickly.
 
I don’t think Charlotte is including Bridges in any kind of salary dump. I don’t think they’d send two 1st either. So that would be a no for me.

Batum + Bridges and a 1st and you’ve got me at the table and ready to pull the trigger.

I still believe the core (Gobert, Mitchell, Quin, and a stable of versatile 6’ 8”-ish guys) is a move or two from substantial improvement, especially improving who will primarily play the 4 on this team (as oppose to starting a 5, then cobbling together all the other minutes at the position game-by-game.).

I feel like Batum has the skill-set to play an Ingles-type role, and he’s always fared as well as he’s feeling about his situation. Bridges could at long last be our answer as the primary 4 on this team.

That still leaves a lot of questions about what the hell is going to happen at the PG spot, but if you can get Bridges then you seriously consider it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don’t think Charlotte is including Bridges in any kind of salary dump. I don’t think they’d send two 1st either. So that would be a no for me.

Batum + Bridges and a 1st and you’ve got me at the table and ready to pull the trigger.

I still believe the core (Gobert, Mitchell, Quin, and a stable of versatile 6’ 8”-ish guys) is a move or two from substantial improvement, especially improving who will primarily play the 4 on this team (as oppose to starting a 5, then cobbling together all the other minutes at the position game-by-game.).

I feel like Batum has the skill-set to play an Ingles-type role, and he’s always fared as well as he’s feeling about his situation. Bridges could at long last be our answer as the primary 4 on this team.

That still leaves a lot of questions about what the hell is going to happen at the PG spot, but if you can get Bridges then you seriously consider it.
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Charlotte won't move Bridges imo... I think they'd do a first and Monk to unload Batum, but I'm not a Monk fan. Could probably find a 3rd team willing to give a late first for him though.

Don't think we are interested in that at all though. But if we are going to say Batum is washed and not worth his contract (he isn't worth what he is paid) let's not assume that Kevin Love (who is 100 days older and currently not healthy and has missed more games due to injury) is still in his prime. Love is and has been a much better player over his career, but his age decline may end up being worse than Batum's.... and his deal runs 2 years longer. Just not sure why we'd give a pick (at a minimum) for one guy and get a pick (at a minimum) for the other.

Again... I think DL is convinced he can land a FA. So I doubt he goes for the expensive declining vet and the draft pick mystery box... we shall see.
 
The Hornets said they would add in Frank Kaminsky as sweetener to get off Batum.

That's obviously ridiculous, but they will probably have to go Monk and/or a 1st to get off Batum. I don't see them going Bridges.
 
I think Charlotte would likely be more interested in sending Marvin Williams and a 1st for Jae and salary filler. They don't take a step back in talent but get some salary relief... they are in a tax conundrum if they keep Kemba. We'd preserve some ability to go on the FA market still and Marvin can play stretch 4 for us.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The Hornets said they would add in Frank Kaminsky as sweetener to get off Batum.

That's obviously ridiculous, but they will probably have to go Monk and/or a 1st to get off Batum. I don't see them going Bridges.
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Agree... they had a report earlier in the season that they clearly put out there that there was a lot of trade interest in Marvin Williams, but they'd want a first to move him or some BS.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Charlotte would likely be more interested in sending Marvin Williams and a 1st for Jae and salary filler. They don't take a step back in talent but get some salary relief... they are in a tax conundrum if they keep Kemba. We'd preserve some ability to go on the FA market still and Marvin can play stretch 4 for us.
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Yeah, I would not like that.

Crower is probably less efficient, but his upper-range of performance is way better than Marvin's.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, I would not like that.

Crower is probably less efficient, but his upper-range of performance is way better than Marvin's.
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Crowder can get more volume... agreed. I think Marvin might be more steady and might be a better defender... IDK though because I don't watch enough Hornets. I'd be hoping to upgrade the position in FA and have Marv be a backup... gives us another draft mystery box that might be something.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The Hornets said they would add in Frank Kaminsky as sweetener to get off Batum.

That's obviously ridiculous, but they will probably have to go Monk and/or a 1st to get off Batum. I don't see them going Bridges.
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The only way I take Batum is if they send Bridges.

Simply put - the Hornets need to win now to appease Kemba. Of Favors, Bridges and Batum, I think Favors is the best player right now AND he addresses some of the needs that Charlotte has in the post, rebounding and defense. I would argue that Charlotte has a better chance of making the playoffs with Favors and Thabo than they do with Batum and Bridges. I don't know if we would do Favors and Thabo straight up for Batum and Bridges, but it would be a very interesting conversation.
 
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