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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

LoPo said:
Yeah, but Wall is hurt and wont get traded. We know that.

So like I said earlier, they would have to start winning before the deadline to keep Beal AND Porter. If they dont win enough and we all know they all 3 don't work well together, a change will be made.

I think they will trade Porter, but if Beal low key asks for a trade, they will trade him.

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Yes... but I was talking to your point about Beal/Porter not working together which is historically incorrect which is why I brought up Wall.

I don't understand why they *have* to start winning before the deadline to keep Beal and Porter. The Wizards have no obligation to trade those guys by the deadline if they don't want to, and they're not going to get anywhere near a fair deal for Beal in any kind of trade so unless he straight out demands a trade they're not going to move him. Porter may be moved for the right deal but after dealing Oubre I'm not convinced the Wizards are desperate to get rid of him as it leaves their wing depth super thin.

If the Wizards suck even with those two guys then why trade one when their trade values are low if they can just continue to suck/sit them, secure a draft pick, and then come back next year with Wall/Beal/Porter/high draft pick/etc instead of Wall/high draft pick/couple of mid round or late draft picks/young prospects that problably won't get to the level of Beal?
 
Sandman822 said:
Yes... but I was talking to your point about Beal/Porter not working together which is historically incorrect which is why I brought up Wall.

I don't understand why they *have* to start winning before the deadline to keep Beal and Porter. The Wizards have no obligation to trade those guys by the deadline if they don't want to, and they're not going to get anywhere near a fair deal for Beal in any kind of trade so unless he straight out demands a trade they're not going to move him. Porter may be moved for the right deal but after dealing Oubre I'm not convinced the Wizards are desperate to get rid of him as it leaves their wing depth super thin.

If the Wizards suck even with those two guys then why trade one when their trade values are low if they can just continue to suck/sit them, secure a draft pick, and then come back next year with Wall/Beal/Porter/high draft pick/etc instead of Wall/high draft pick/couple of mid round or late draft picks/young prospects that problably won't get to the level of Beal?
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Did I say that Porter and Beal don't work together? I was talking about Wall and Beal. Sorry if I was misunderstood there.

Washington underachieved with Wall/Beal/Porter before this year. They were terrible this year even after they added Ariza before the Wall injury. So if they don't at least make a decent run over the next month, they are dumb to keep it together. There are teams right now who want Porter despite his contract. There are teams who would pay a ton to get Beal.

If they traded one of those guys for expirings, Washington could tank. I just don't see Beal liking a tank. I don't think Porter has enough clout to fight it off. If they trade Beal, it just makes sense. They get a boat load for Beal, shelve Porter due to his nagging knee injuries, and develop Troy Brown the rest of the year. Without Wall, Porter and Beal, Washington would be a bottom 4 team and could be in the Zion sweepstakes. Some rookie isn't going to fix the Wall/Beal/Porter dynamic.
 
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LoPo said:
Did I say that Porter and Beal don't work together? I was talking about Wall and Beal. Sorry if I was misunderstood there.

Washington underachieved with Wall/Beal/Porter before this year. They were terrible this year even after they added Ariza before the Wall injury. So if they don't at least make a decent run over the next month, they are dumb to keep it together. There are teams right now who want Porter despite his contract. There are teams who would pay a ton to get Beal.

If they traded one of those guys for expirings, Washington could tank. I just don't see Beal liking a tank. I don't think Porter has enough clout to fight it off. If they trade Beal, it just makes sense. They get a boat load for Beal, shelve Porter due to his nagging knee injuries, and develop Troy Brown the rest of the year. Without Wall, Porter and Beal, Washington would be a bottom 4 team and could be in the Zion sweepstakes. Some rookie isn't going to fix the Wall/Beal/Porter dynamic.
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The original post I quoted seemed like you were talking about Beal and Porter and I even directly mentioned them and you still went on so it definitely seemed like you meant Beal and Porter lol.

They were bad but they had an absolutely brutal early 15 - 20 game stretch where it seemed like every one of their early games after their home opener were on the road in the West, and by the time they got home and were ready to rattle off some wins Wall had already quit on the team and Beal was frustrated too (that practice they had where Beal called out Ernie was great). They made some moves and looked semi decent again but then Wall's foot injury came in.

I get what you're saying I just don't agree that they would get tons for Beal.
 
I think we go 10-6 at worst over the next 16. Worse than that and I’m really disappointed. Better than that and I’m feeling pretty darn good.

That puts us at 30-26 with 26 games to go.
 
I think we go 15-11 at worst after that. That’s 45 wins.

I don’t have a ton of confidence in our consistency at this point but should we continue our upward trend (especially our backcourt), I’d guess we win 47-48 wins.
 
Would love to get super hot and win 10 of the next 12 or something.

We’d be in a great freakin’ spot.
 
Guy rolls an ankle and he’s glass? He’ll be back in a couple weeks... that injury could have happened to anyone. Timing really sucks.
 
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