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Korver is trash

NPC D4617 said:
Lol

Wtf is this? Did you turn over a new leaf on new years? Kinder? I didnt even know that was in your vocabulary. But whatever. Good on you.

Hey, you know what everyone. If Numberica can change then I can change. Maybe we all can change.
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latin jazz said:
Important point: there are two teams on the table, so...did the Cavs want someone else besides Burks?
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That question you ask is why I say that DL's negotiation skills suck. Listen up,
Korver is great for the Jazz and our system, it makes sense for us to have inquired about him with the Cavs.
There were many teams going after Korver after he requested a trade to the Cavs management.
The Jazz were not the only team to send the Cavs a trade proposition to acquire Korver.
The Jazz outbid the other teams, because instead of negotiating, they gave up far more than what any other team offered.
Negotiation definition: "Bargaining (give and take) process between two or more parties (each with its own aims, needs, and viewpoints) seeking to discover a common ground and reach an agreement to settle a matter of mutual concern or resolve a conflict."
My argument is, I know that we could've acquired Korver to the Jazz, giving up less assets, with stronger negotiating skills. It's not that we gave up Burks to get him, it's that we gave up not one, but two 2nd round picks to get Korver who is 37 years old. I have no doubt that he will be a solid player for the next 2 years, but two 2nd rounders and a guy who's a talented 27 year old, for Korver is crazy. Of course the Cavs agreed.
2nd rounders are valuable and they are there for negotiations, but not with guys that could retire any day, no matter how talented they are.
 
Lakers_Slapper said:
That question you ask is why I say that DL's negotiation skills suck. Listen up,
Korver is great for the Jazz and our system, it makes sense for us to have inquired about him with the Cavs.
There were many teams going after Korver after he requested a trade to the Cavs management.
The Jazz were not the only team to send the Cavs a trade proposition to acquire Korver.
The Jazz outbid the other teams, because instead of negotiating, they gave up far more than what any other team offered.
Negotiation definition: "Bargaining (give and take) process between two or more parties (each with its own aims, needs, and viewpoints) seeking to discover a common ground and reach an agreement to settle a matter of mutual concern or resolve a conflict."
My argument is, I know that we could've acquired Korver to the Jazz, giving up less assets, with stronger negotiating skills. It's not that we gave up Burks to get him, it's that we gave up not one, but two 2nd round picks to get Korver who is 37 years old. I have no doubt that he will be a solid player for the next 2 years, but two 2nd rounders and a guy who's a talented 27 year old, for Korver is crazy. Of course the Cavs agreed.
2nd rounders are valuable and they are there for negotiations, but not with guys that could retire any day, no matter how talented they are.
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The only way you could know that much detail with any accuracy is if you worked for the Jazz FO or the Cavs FO. I "listened up" and still not buying. And for what it's worth, every trade that goes down goes the high bidder. Pretty simple concept. It even works on eBay.
 
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