2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[fishonjazz]

I'm not sure why Memphis would choose the Jazz offer over the Pistons. The Pistons 2019 first round pick is going to be way better than the Jazz pick.

It won't be only draft picks that get traded to Memphis. Maybe the players and their contacts matter as well

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[framer]

How is it onesided? They get cap relief and presumably a pick

Hell, I'd even throw in Allen for Bradley if they demanded it. You can convert our trade exceptions into cap relief by trading for an expiring contract of like value to a capped out team, if you need more matching fodder.

 

[SCS]

What about something along these lines:
http://tradenba.com/trades/ByesvxU4V

I'm making the assumption that this is a precursor to New Orleans making a deal with LA, or another suitor for AD, meaning dumping Hill has some value to them. It's not a first for Mirotic, but they get a good player with a flexible contract in Favors, and get off Hill's contract. I think that's about the best value Mirotic will pull right now.

Memphis gets their two firsts, which it seems is their main priority in dealing Conley. Most of the incoming salary is expiring.

Utah has seemed hesitant to give up more than a single first for Conley, but I guess I'm kind of imagining this as them considering it 1.5 first rounders for Conley, .5 of a first for Mirotic.

I'm on record as not actually being too into Mirotic -- and I still think he's super overrated around here -- but I could see this as a feasible approach to bringing in Conley and some additional firepower to recoup losses in outgoing value.

The more I think about it, the more I like this trade idea.

Conley - Exum - Neto
Mitchell - Korver
Ingles - O'neale
Crowder - Mirotic
Gobert - Udoh

Good balance between defense and offense there.

I just wish we could avoid giving up two firsts.

 

[Bodhi]

2-days, 18-hours, 10-minutes.

Prepare for disappointment .

I mean, if disappointment is no move then I think it’s over 50/50 but if no move is made I trust it’s because we weren’t about to give too much for a gamble.

I’m ok with that.

 

[Bodhi]

^i typed that with a 3 year old climbing on me....prob is poorly worded....

 

[Keefe]

^i typed that with a 3 year old climbing on me....prob is poorly worded....

Ugh. RIP, Bodhi.

 

[LoPo]

So 2 or so days left, where does everybody rank the following 8 rumored to be traded players:

Conley
Jabari
Jrue
Kuzma
Mirotic
Otto
Randle
Tobias


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[David Stern]

So 2 or so days left, where does everybody rank the following 8 rumored to be traded players:

Conley
Jabari
Jrue
Kuzma
Mirotic
Otto
Randle
Tobias


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Tobias
Kuzma
Jrue
Mirotic
Conley
Porter
Randle
Jabari

 

[framer]

So 2 or so days left, where does everybody rank the following 8 rumored to be traded players:

Conley
Jabari
Jrue
Kuzma
Mirotic
Otto
Randle
Tobias


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Half of those aren't a thing.

 

[framer]

Plus, we gettin' Griffin.

 

[Douchebag K]

So 2 or so days left, where does everybody rank the following 8 rumored to be traded players:

Conley
Jabari
Jrue
Kuzma
Mirotic
Otto
Randle
Tobias


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Kevin Love

 

[Keefe]

So 2 or so days left, where does everybody rank the following 8 rumored to be traded players:

Conley
Jabari
Jrue
Kuzma
Mirotic
Otto
Randle
Tobias


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Rumored? According to NO, Jrue is flat out off the table. The only way that changes imo is if they’re offered something unbelievable and we don’t have that. The Lakers are not trading Kuzma imo unless it’s in a package for a stud and like Jrue, OPJ is supposedly off the table though I think he could be had.

Conley
Harris
Jabari
Mrotic
Randle

That’s about it for me. Get the only available high end pg and cross your fingers you can get one of these stretch 4’s in the offseason. Approaching it the other way around makes no sense to me unless the FO is absolutely sold Rubio is our pg and we’ll be able to retain him at a fair price, neither of which I believe or trust at this moment. And given his looming free agency, this moment is what matters.

 

[NAOS]

The more I think about it, the more I like this trade idea.

Conley - Exum - Neto
Mitchell - Korver
Ingles - O'neale
Crowder - Mirotic
Gobert - Udoh

Good balance between defense and offense there.

I just wish we could avoid giving up two firsts.

Mirotic isn’t staying here for a bench role. Dude is definitely looking to cash in and play like he’s paid.

 

[LoPo]

Half of those aren't a thing.

Otto, Jrue and Harris aren't right now, but there are questions being asked for a reason. It's smart for GMs to give an answer of support until the last minute.

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[NAOS]

Rumored? According to NO, Jrue is flat out off the table. The only way that changes imo is if they’re offered something unbelievable and we don’t have that. The Lakers are not trading Kuzma imo unless it’s in a package for a stud and like Jrue, OPJ is supposedly off the table though I think he could be had.

Conley
Harris
Jabari
Mrotic
Randle

That’s about it for me. Get the only available high end pg and cross your fingers you can get one of these stretch 4’s in the offseason. Approaching it the other way around makes no sense to me unless the FO is absolutely sold Rubio is our pg and we’ll be able to retain him at a fair price, neither of which I believe or trust at this moment. And given his looming free agency, this moment is what matters.

So, you accept the report that’s out there on Jrue’s unavailability, but not the one on OP Jr’s unavailability? Why?

 

[Keefe]

So, you accept the report that’s out there on Jrue’s unavailability, but not the one on OP Jr’s unavailability? Why?

The Wiz are ****ed. Wall has the worst contract in the league, maybe outside of Hayward. Given their complete ******** of a season, the knowledge that that contract is never getting moved, and the idea that Beal shouldn’t be traded as he’s their best player, it makes OPJ the odd man out. Lest they want to stand pat and have a couple more **** shows of seasons.

 

[NAOS]

The Wiz are ****ed. Wall has the worst contract in the league, maybe outside of Hayward. Given their complete ******** of a season, the knowledge that that contract is never getting moved, and the idea that Beal shouldn’t be traded as he’s their best player, it makes OPJ the odd man out. Lest they want to stand pat and have a couple more **** shows of seasons.

I see.... you’re just accepting and rejecting things in order for them to fit your narrative. Gotcha.

 

[LoPo]

I would rank them:

Kuzma
Tobias
Jrue
Randle
Conley
Jabari
Porter
Mirotic

I do rank them all though. Depending the cost, I would take them.

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[Keefe]

I see.... you’re just accepting and rejecting things in order for them to fit your narrative. Gotcha.

Sort of like saying two defenses are elite, even though neither were remotely close to elite, and then posting a link referencing one game (lmfao), the Super Bowl, in which the defenses played superbly as your “evidence” to fit your narrative.

Like that?

 

[Keefe]

And lmao about saying something to fit my narrative. Yeah I have a huge agenda with Porter who I’d put at 5th on my list if I was to include him. Or maybe it just makes complete sense that the Wiz need to trade him unless they want to stand pat with the garbage product they’ve been marching out there for a couple more years.