Alfalfa
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I don't disagree with that. No way Love lives up to his contract, and the Jazz shouldn't consider him.
2019 Trade Deadline Discussion
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I don't disagree with that. No way Love lives up to his contract, and the Jazz shouldn't consider him.
Alfalfa
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Right. They'll pray he plays well enough for someone to give em expirings for him.
The funny **** is if we did any of the moves we wanted and lost in the 2nd round again (likely even with Conley), people would be bitching that we traded into a capped out roster.
LoPo
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Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”
Relying on free agency when, outside of one year in our franchise history, we don't attract good free agents is insanity. I'm patient enough to judge DL after this summer, but if we roll out the same core roster 3 years in a row, the backlash is deserved.
latin jazz
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This thread just won't die
LoPo
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Somebody can close it for sure.
I don't know what the record is for posts in a thread, but 8,000 posts in a thread only open for 2 months is pretty crazy.
latin jazz
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Pretty sure you are guilty for half of them
LoPo
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Pretty sure we’ll be trading for him this summer and giving up an asset to do so.
It’s kind of like coach pitch where there are no strikes or balls, but you get 7 total pitches to either hit or be out. DL watched the first three go by, and everyone was happy because, with 7 pitches, it only takes one good one to swing away and get on base, and he was afforded the opportunity to watch a few pass. Now a couple balls have been thrown that, depending on vantage point, could have warranted a swing, but he’s waiting for the right pitch. Pitch 6 came in and it was just a bit outside — no problem — except now you have one pitch left, and regardless where it gets thrown, you’ll be swinging at it. The 7th pitch is Kevin Love.
LoPo
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Let's just say for a second that this is the plan. If so, we should have just done it at this deadline. Think about it...
1. Favors and Thabo for Love
2. This summer, Cleveland declines Favors' option
3. We use the full MLE to sign Favors
4. Re-sign Rubio
5. We would have the same roster but Love instead of Favors. Next season, it's the same roster but Love PLUS Favors. Incredible depth.
If we get Love this summer, it comes at the expense of Rubio and/or Favors. That's one of the biggest mistakes about not using our expirings to add a player. We are going to lose the advantages that over the cap teams have. When you are under the cap, you only can use the $4.5 million exception. When you are over, you get the MLE to use over 2 years.
The Fresh Prince
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Why cant we have an aggressive GM? Some moves that we do make this franchise feel like they are 20 years behind the times as far as building a team goes. Its pretty depressing and boring when we already know what to expect of a team that looks almost as identical as it did a year ago.
It’s not the plan right now, though. I think we’ve continually overestimated the availability of talent at every step along the horizon, and we’re eventually going to reach a wall this summer, and that’s where we’ll realize the only guy out there is Love, and we’ll pull the trigger. We’ll see the other guys go, we’ll maybe make a pass at overpaying some guy that had a decent showing post ASB, Dennis will pass on Mirotic for the third time, and we’ll bring in Love and talk about immediate chemistry with Ricky. It will be perfect, too, because he’s under contract for a while, and is immovable, so it will take some of the pressure off of having to do something afterward.
This sounds silly, but if last summer I told anyone we’d get fixated on cashing in all that saved up “flexibility” for Mike Conley and his contract, a lot of people would have told me to knock the **** off with the hyperbolic pessimism. But in the moment, we became ok with Conley, just as we’ll become this summer when we not only trade for Love, but surrender a first and second round pick to do so.
elan_prodigy
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But you could still trade Conley.
Oh joy, the Jazz could get Reggie Jackson and a first round pick from Detroit.
elan_prodigy
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Conley in Quins system and playing next to Rudy could look incredible. Who knows what you could get in the offseason or next Feb.
jom2003
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If we are in a desperate situation with Rozier being the only viabl option left in the summer, it's worth a shot picking up Reggie cuz those two are essentially the same player except one is getting overpaid and the other is about to get overpaid.
