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Everyone watch episode 5 yet? Very solid. Dorff was a little shaky in the first episode or two but he's started to semi-shine. Make sure if you watch, to keep a close eye on the details during the 2015 docu scenes. Really makes you wonder.
 
Ali’s wife is pretty much a selfish, whorish, devil.

And I fully expect that at some point we’ll learn everything that we’ve seen will be shown to be a misrepresentation of what actually happened given Ali’s dementia, which started pre-1990.

He’s our lens and a narrative is really only as reliable as its’ narrator, even if it’s not from his actual perspective.

Something is up with his wife for sure. I'm sure there's plenty we don't know about her yet.

Plus, the most virtuous woman ever on True Detective cheated on her husband with his partner (Woody Harrelson's wife). So I expect some twists in the next episode or two.
 
People all caught up? I liked this week’s episode a lot.

Feels like they’re not super close to a resolution with only two episodes left.
 
People all caught up? I liked this week’s episode a lot.

Feels like they’re not super close to a resolution with only two episodes left.
Really?

I mean, I assume there is some kind of twist, but it seems obvious Hoyt Industries runs some kind of pedophile ring and they have a lot of the town bought off.
 
Some interesting lines and scenes this week.

IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN EPISODE 6, I WOULDN’T KEEP READING.

When the documentarian made the comment about someone disappearing in a quarry, she looked damned upset for some reason. Could Harris have been her father?

When Dorff looked out the window and said there wasn’t a car out there, it felt like he was lying. Was there? Or is it his car that’s usually the one out there?

When Harris commented on Hayes’ conditioning. I assume the former is gay. Maybe had a relationship with the dad. Seems likely to me and that Harris tries to get him out of the Pink Room but the dad ends up killing Harris. Maybe he then calls Hayes and Dorff for help at Hoyt’s house and they help him get rid of the body?

Maybe most notably, when the runaway looked out the window and saw the young man get out of the truck. No reason to show that scene unless it’s of some significance imo. And if you noticed the name on the side of the truck, it’s significant. Especially since two seconds later the runaway comments on girls disappearing or something.

I’m assuming there’s some kiddie porn/kidnapping ring and that Hoyt is one of the figureheads of it. Seems obvious. Trying to tie everything together.
 
Really?

I mean, I assume there is some kind of twist, but it seems obvious Hoyt Industries runs some kind of pedophile ring and they have a lot of the town bought off.

Here’s what I’m thinking.

O’Brien was a creep. Had been ****ing Lucy since they were kids (hence milestone comment)...he’s the father of the girl. But I don’t think he’s involved.

Lucy likely wanted money. Maybe told kids to go to woods. Hoyt creeps were there. Boy tried to stop them and was killed. Mom placed him in communion position. Girl somehow escaped in woods and realized she couldn’t go home because of mom. Went to Hoyt because he’s powerful and can help people. Brought her in. Pink room. She eventually escaped, went to the shelter, and met up with the Ardon kid (truck) who was the boy who liked her when they were little kids. She lives with him. But she’s had a ****ed up life, they’re poor, it explains the shoplifting. She also calls the hotline because she’s found out Purcell is not her dad. Dan O’Brien was her real dad. Hence Lucy’s parents comments at the funeral in episode 1 and O’Brien’s comments at the diner about sharing a milestone with Lucy.
 
Here’s what I’m thinking.

O’Brien was a creep. Had been ****ing Lucy since they were kids (hence milestone comment)...he’s the father of the girl. But I don’t think he’s involved.

Lucy likely wanted money. Maybe told kids to go to woods. Hoyt creeps were there. Boy tried to stop them and was killed. Mom placed him in communion position. Girl somehow escaped in woods and realized she couldn’t go home because of mom. Went to Hoyt because he’s powerful and can help people. Brought her in. Pink room. She eventually escaped, went to the shelter, and met up with the Ardon kid (truck) who was the boy who liked her when they were little kids. She lives with him. But she’s had a ****ed up life, they’re poor, it explains the shoplifting. She also calls the hotline because she’s found out Purcell is not her dad. Dan O’Brien was her real dad. Hence Lucy’s parents comments at the funeral in episode 1 and O’Brien’s comments at the diner about sharing a milestone with Lucy.
Sounds likely. I think they're also going to tie the pedo ring to season 1 as well.
 
Also, I think the "not my dad" thing is about the police guy. I think hes part of the ring and abused her in the pink room as her "dad"
 
Also, I think the "not my dad" thing is about the police guy. I think hes part of the ring and abused her in the pink room as her "dad"

I thought that too. It would explain why they were so quick to pin everything on Woodard. But after she said that, I thought she said, “The guy who is going on tv and saying he’s my dad.” Which the cop didn’t say. But yeah, I thought that.

I actually looked at the majors name tag closely last night too to see if it said Childress. It did not.
 
Okay after some thinking and re-thinking, here goes:

The black guy with the messed up eye from episode 6 was with Lucy in his brown car. They were banging and even in love. She’d met him at the Hoyt factory where they both worked years before. This would explain his unusual anger at the book signing. He felt guilty about the boy’s death and girl’s runaway. He and Lucy were involved. There just wasn’t anything evil going on. Maybe they met up with kids and told them they were leaving together. A new home. A new life. Happier. Lucy maybe even mentioned in her unstable ways how Purcell wasn't her real dad anyway. (Either this or the kids caught them out there banging in the car)...Either way, in the ensuing arguing going on, the boy slipped and hit his head on rock and died. They moved him into communion position. It would explain why those little dolls were out there. Black guy had them in his brown car. It would also explain why they were set up as a runway of sorts leading people to the body, as Hayes alluded to in episode one.

The girl, right when it happened, ran away knowing she couldn’t go home because of Lucy. Went to Hoyt for help since he was known and had money and power to help. But he had pederass ring which she escaped after some time. A few years maybe? She went to the shelter. Met up with Arden boy who she loved. But she's still ****ed up in 1990. Called the hotline to say that man isn't my dad...maybe she's twisted and meant the cop but so messed up it didn’t come out right. That cop at the presser had been one of the adults who abused her. Hence why they were so quick to pin crime on Woodard.

This makes complete sense I think.
 
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