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I think the Jazz have slipped back offensively though to a degree, Gobert/Favors have been fantastic but the rest of the roster is either inconsistent or has regressed from last year. I think it's also been made abundantly clear that the roster as currently constructed can't compete with the top tier teams in the NBA which is influencing people's opinions on the team. They're a really good team but are clearly a tier below the OKC/Houstons/Denvers of the NBA (note - I was hesitant to include the Nuggets as I don't know how much you can trust them in the playoffs yet but they've been good), let alone the Warriors.

You mention how consistent Gobert/Favors have been which is absolutely true, but the two of them being on the floor together is also one of the biggest problems with the offense. Our starting unit has major problems scoring nearly every game and the spacing is just awful. The two just don't fit together at all. A really good stretch 4 would solve so many of our offensive woes.

 

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It's not a crutch, it's the reality of the situation. The Jazz are actually projected to finish with 49 wins, which is a game better than last season.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nba-predictions/
And the reason why they are projected to finish a game better than last season despite currently being a little worse in the statistical areas you mentioned is precisely because of the schedule.

Even if the Jazz win 49 they are still likely to be a worse team than last year.

Also, 49 wins is not a big accomplishment. Several expected 50+ wins. I expected 54. Hell, if you wanna use 538 they expected/predicted 54 too... https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nba-predictions/jazz/

 

[Sandman822]

You mention how consistent Gobert/Favors have been which is absolutely true, but the two of them being on the floor together is also one of the biggest problems with the offense. Our starting unit has major problems scoring nearly every game and the spacing is just awful. The two just don't fit together at all. A really good stretch 4 would solve so many of our offensive woes.

You're right, but it's not fair to just pair Favors/Gobert when talking about the starting unit's spacing woe. It's the Rubio/Favors/Gobert trio that is the problem, the team gets instantly better the moment one of Rubio or Favors is taken off (usually Favors). Rubio/Exum/Favors or Gobert has the same issues but is played almost never except when Quin liked what he saw from Dante and tried to get him more minutes.

I think upgrading either spot is the better option but I like upgrading the 4 spot more since it gives the team more flexibility to run Mitchell at the point for stretches with 3 wings. If the Jazz were to upgrade the PG spot I'd want a PG who can get into the paint consistently and be an inside-out threat who can knock down a 3 when need be, which is why I've been on the unrealistic Jrue Holiday bandwagon for a while now.

 

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Good thing we didn't trade Favors and Exum for K.Love. He only scored 32 points with 12 rebounds on 15 shots. Horrible trade idea for the Jazz

We’re going to trade for him this summer.

 

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We’re going to trade for him this summer.

Ya know. It only took donovan 35 shots to get 38 points the other night. How nice would it be to get 32 points with 15 shots?

 

[fishonjazz]

Ya know. It only took donovan 35 shots to get 38 points the other night. How nice would it be to get 32 points with 15 shots?

Sample size though?
One game shouldn't carry too much weight. Zach lavine scored 42 the other night.


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[LogGrad98]

I noticed that when you showed that we improved offensively you disqualified it because offense is up league wide

Well don't you need to disqualify the decrease in our defensive numbers too then? If offense is up league wide than that would automatically mean defense is down league wide, no?

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There is no room for logic when arguing online. Come on man.

 

[LogGrad98]

Sample size though?
One game shouldn't carry too much weight. Zach lavine scored 42 the other night.


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Unfortunately this kind of inefficiency is proving to be the rule for Donovan rather than the exception.

 

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Unfortunately this kind of inefficiency is proving to be the rule for Donovan rather than the exception.

This.... and then we get all the Homers that say, "WELL, WHO ELSE IS SUPPOSE TO SHOOT????" 35 shots for 38 points is terrible even if he was Kobe. I just can't stand the way he just bulldozes out of control into the paint and it's almost a for sure turnover orbit gets blocked. He does this AT LEAST twice a game

 

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Sample size though?
One game shouldn't carry too much weight. Zach lavine scored 42 the other night.


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Small sample size? Love has been a scoring and rebounding machine for 10 years. Is that a big enough sample size for you? He came back from a major injury and dominated. I've been waiting years for Exum to do anything

 

[fishonjazz]

Small sample size? Love has been a scoring and rebounding machine for 10 years. Is that a big enough sample size for you? He came back from a major injury and dominated. I've been waiting years for Exum to do anything

So for 10 years he has been scoring 32 points per on 15 shots?
Let me check the Google and see if you are correct.
If we look his last 5 years which is a pretty good sample he hasn't averaged over 19 points per game at all. He is about 13 shots for 17 points per game.
Seems that one game sample you provided isn't his normal production just like I suspected.

I mean whenever you can pay 30+ million dollars per year to a 30+ year old injury prone no defense having player that can get you 17 points per game on about 42% from the field and about 37% from 3..... I mean you have to do it right? Oh and also give up players or picks for the opportunity to overpay that old injury prone no defense player who is ok on offense.
I mean maybe if Cleveland gives us a few 1st rounders to take him off their hands then we should consider it.

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