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Look... I'm fairly sure we are about to pivot. Favs has been really good, but his biggest benefit is great backup center play. I think we can get 75%-80% of what he brings and maybe get a little different skillset on the cheap.

The candidates for the room exception or lower (4.5M per year for 2 years):

Dedmon - may be above this pay grade... would give shot blocking and some three point shooting.

Noah Vonleh - Good at moving his feet, good defender, adds some passing... still young so could improve.

Ivica Zubac - he may stay put but his #s per 36 are identical to Favs. If he stays restricted I'm guessing clips retain him for this small of an offer.

Thomas Bryant - Good young player likely gets more than this cuz Wiz pay 200% for every player they can... wiz gonna wiz.

Kyle O Quinn - The most gettable and solid replacement imo.

Minimum Guys

Javale McGee - Goofy AF but productive... can do a homeless man's impression of Rudy.

Tyson Chandler - Old AF and likely stays in LA

Kosta Koufus - Solid center... bring back boom bitches.

Khem Birch - Solid defensive center... buried in Orlando

Ekpe Udoh - We know what he is good and bad at.

Any that I missed? Was only looking at potential bargains not expensive backups.
 
I think i understand the reasoning behind letting Favors walk and paying less for a backup. However, Idon't like the thought of Favors leaving because I have become partial to him.

When he leaves, and is successful elsewhere does Jazzfanz create a post "Did we give up on Favors too early?"

Do jazz risk gaining a reputation for having players become successful AFTER they leave?
 
mellow said:
I think i understand the reasoning behind letting Favors walk and paying less for a backup. However, Idon't like the thought of Favors leaving because I have become partial to him.

When he leaves, and is successful elsewhere does Jazzfanz create a post "Did we give up on Favors too early?"

Do jazz risk gaining a reputation for having players become successful AFTER they leave?
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Yes and no... if anything we have the opposite reputation. Guys find success here then struggle to find a fit... Hayward, Hill would be example 1a and 1b. Injury aside with Gordon... if he never gets to his previous level "Utah Gordon Hayward" will be a myth that haunts Celtics fans.
 
The fact that DL said at the end of the season that "Favs is not part of the problem, he is part of the solution", makes me think the Jazz are going to try and find a way to keep him. They may not be able to but I think that is the goal.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think he's going to be good next year.
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Look I don't watch his G League games... His numbers are not encouraging at all. Larsen was really down on the guy... and scoffed in a podcast at the idea that he was ready for any nba minutes. I guess I can wait until summer league to see what he looks like but I have the feeling if the Jazz had a do-over on picking up his option for next year that they very well may decline it.

I don't think we would rely on him as a the primary backup yet.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Look I don't watch his G League games... His numbers are not encouraging at all. Larsen was really down on the guy... and scoffed in a podcast at the idea that he was ready for any nba minutes. I guess I can wait until summer league to see what he looks like but I have the feeling if the Jazz had a do-over on picking up his option for next year that they very well may decline it.

I don't think we would rely on him as a the primary backup yet.
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He played out of position nearly the entire season and averaged 19 and 10 per 36 minutes as a PF...
 
NUMBERICA said:
If using per 36 stats in the G-League is the strength of your argument, you don't have one.
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What else should I be using? People just love being negative on him because the aesthetics of his game, but the guy has a lot of natural talent.

The guy has been a productive player.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
What else should I be using? People just love being negative on him because the aesthetics of his game, but the guy has a lot of natural talent.

The guy has been a productive player.
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He did the same last year per36... I know he had the injury this year but he managed to shoot 45% from FT which is a big regression... limited sample. I don't hate the aesthetics of his game... it's just that in the G League he should put up big numbers if he's an NBA player... there are like 3-4 G League centers I like more than him.

Cavanaugh puts up 21 and 9 on 40% 3 point shooting, Haas had slightly better per36 numbers than Bradley, Willie Reed before he got hurt had better numbers.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He did the same last year per36... I know he had the injury this year but he managed to shoot 45% from FT which is a big regression... limited sample. I don't hate the aesthetics of his game... it's just that in the G League he should put up big numbers if he's an NBA player... there are like 3-4 G League centers I like more than him.

Cavanaugh puts up 21 and 9 on 40% 3 point shooting, Haas had slightly better per36 numbers than Bradley, Willie Reed before he got hurt had better numbers.
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Yes, again, because he played out of position.
 
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