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What Do We Do if we get no big name tree agents?

Rozier can't shoot consistently. Randle plays the same position as Favors. You are going to pay Favors to be a backup center and PF.
 
I can tell you exactly what’ll happen. The jazz will bring back Favors and sign some other free agent for about $15 million.

Then they’ll try to be aggressive on the trade market through next season’s trade deadline with Favors’ expiring deal. Somewhere there will be a star on the trading block. We’ll have expiring deals, Grayson Allen, the 2019 draft pick and our 2020 draft pick to try to swing a deal.
 
If we waive Favors, promote Bradley, here's our lineup. Rudy, Bradley, Jingles, Jae, Royce, Neto, Exum, Allen, Niang Two rookies, and two legally ded people and then let's make a deal.
Where’s Mitchell?
So if we totally whiff on everything, do we take Hayward back? What if it came down to Hayward or Love?

I would love to have Hayward back.
 
What tier were Boozer and Okur that offseason we landed them both?
Looking over the list, pretty high. You had Nash, Kobe, Jamal Crawford, and a restricted Ginobili. I don’t remember the complete breakdown of what each team obtained, but I’d wager that we probably had the best free agent acquisitions.
 
I think this scenario is as likely as us striking gold. Do we pick up Favs option then what? Promote Naz and Cavanaugh? Make Exum the savior? Promote Herpes, Cousins or Lyles? Resign Cooley, Cotton and Sap Jr?
we already have
 
I mostly agree. The only problem is we have a small window to try and add that third piece before we have to give Rudy a supermax and Donovan a max. We basically have this offseason and next plus the next two trade deadlines, and the free agent class next offseason sucks.

Another thing that really worries me is there are a lot of star free agents this year and the Lakers and Clippers both have the cap space to add one or two of them. Imagine if Durant and Kawhi go to the Clippers and Kyrie goes to the Lakers or the Lakers trade for Anthony Davis. If both of those teams improve and we don't they will likely pass us by. Instead of being a 5 seed next year we could easily drop to 7th.

We only really have this offseason. Because if we strike out on getting that 3rd guy this offseason the Jazz will use that cap space to either run it back and it's game over OR the Jazz will sign players of a similar talent level to replace whoever we lose and they will pass it off as an upgrade that will require the patient approach the Jazz always take before we see the payoff. And by the time they realize that doesn't work either it will be too late. It's all or nothing this summer. This is it.
 
If we miss out on all our top free agent targets then I think we'll be very aggressive on the trade market, if we strike out there too we're ****ed.

Not necessarily. We're not completely ******. Not yet. Jazz fill a hole with the MLE and keep Favors. He'll have value at the deadline. Could even revisit the Conley deal with Memphis. I don't really like the scenario, but it doesn't do any good to jettison assets just because. We'd have another shot at a trade at the deadline next year.

Regardless, use our cap space to take back bad contracts so we can get draft or other assets.
As for taking on bad contracts, what do we get in return, a 2nd round pick? There are quite a few teams that will be able to take on bad contracts and just a few teams that will need to get rid of a player here and there. I'm guessing Charlotte would love to dump Batum if they give Kemba the super-max, but they're not going to give up a lottery pick to do so. No way. And even if they did, we'd have lots of competition that would drive down the price.
 
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Something to keep in mind. For the Jazz to free up the space to even offer one of those big time FAs, we have to not pick up Favors contract and release Ricky's cap hold. It's very likely this team will have a new look next season, one way or another.
 
If we can't sign top FAs then we need to trade for them, so if we miss on big FAs we could tank the crap out of the first half of the season so that our draft pick is in the lottery at the trade deadline (I think picks are going to be over-valued because of the last draft lottery). Then at the trade deadline we could actually have a shot at trading for an impact player. After the trade deadline, we try and make the 8 seed and even if we can't make it we are finally able to compete the following year.

I personally would be excited to watch a tanking team focused on development with DM getting PG reps, Allen playing 20 a night, and Royce working as a PF.
 
I don't audibly laugh out loud at things on forums all that often but this one got me.
not only was that a ridiculous statement on its face, but when you consider the pragmatics of signing those three players (offers, cap holds, etc) it looks damn near impossible. In other words, CONTEXT matters. lmao.
 
What tier were Boozer and Okur that offseason we landed them both?
Boozer was coming off his rookie deal, but was an up and coming young player. For the times, I thought that giving him 12 million a year was a small risk. I’m sure it helped that he had a 30 pt game against us in an overtime game. As for Memo, the only two things I knew about him was he could shoot and was pretty much a bench warmer for the champs. I was very upset with the jazz giving him a multi year 50 million $ contract. Thought it was a massive risk at the time.

Both were young and to different degrees were unproven players. If the jazz strike out they may decide to go this route, getting some young unproven talent, and maybe one or two of them take off. I’m just not sure who these guys are.
Tree agent?
You know, tree-huggers lol
 
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