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Woj bomb... AD to Lakers

LoPo said:
Are you expecting them not to get anybody with $27 million in cap room PLUS exceptions PLUS older players who just want to try to win a title? They are gonna have a ton of Thabo type guys wanting to fill out their bench after they spend their $27 million. While not a stud, experienced super cheap guys like that help the cause.
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What exceptions do they have?

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For my money, there is no best player in the NBA right now. However, I would say that the rankings go like...

1. LeBron
1. Durant (pre-injury)
1. Kawhi
1. Giannis

Everybody else... You have to remember, the Raptors went 17-5 when Kawhi rested last year. In other words, they were awesome without him. The Lakers were a home court western conference playoff team until LeBron missed 17 games due to injury. LeBron is that good and important.
 
LoPo said:
For my money, there is no best player in the NBA right now. However, I would say that the rankings go like...

1. LeBron
1. Durant (pre-injury)
1. Kawhi
1. Giannis

Everybody else... You have to remember, the Raptors went 17-5 when Kawhi rested last year. In other words, they were awesome without him. The Lakers were a home court western conference playoff team until LeBron missed 17 games due to injury. LeBron is that good and important.
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The lakers had one of the easiest opening schedules in the league. I dont think it was a coincidence that as soon as the schedule started getting more difficult that LBJ had an injury that sat him out

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framer said:
Did Kawaii Leonard die yesterday? Why didn't I hear about this? Freaking Tragic!
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Nope, he's still alive. Just not the best player in the NBA. Many people win it all and are not the best player. He was great in the playoffs but he also had a good team with tons of depth to help him. 28 points on 43% in the finals is good, just not the best in the NBA. Not like LeBron numbers from the last playoffs.
 
LoPo said:
For my money, there is no best player in the NBA right now. However, I would say that the rankings go like...

1. LeBron
1. Durant (pre-injury)
1. Kawhi
1. Giannis

Everybody else... You have to remember, the Raptors went 17-5 when Kawhi rested last year. In other words, they were awesome without him. The Lakers were a home court western conference playoff team until LeBron missed 17 games due to injury. LeBron is that good and important.
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Laker's schedule was Charmin Soft to start the season. Raptors rested Kawaii against the weak sisters of the East. Apples and oranges.
 
Kyoto said:
The lakers had one of the easiest opening schedules in the league. I dont think it was a coincidence that as soon as the schedule started getting more difficult that LBJ had an injury that sat him out

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We will never know. What is true is - the Lakers were a top 4 West team when LeBron got injured. The same LeBron James who took a fully healthy GS team to overtime in Game 1 of the 2018 Finals while playing with a bunch of guys who would be a bottom 5 NBA team without him. I'm not making the assumption that the Lakers crash out of the playoffs if he stays healthy.
 
LoPo said:
The LeBron as a bad teammate is overblown and unfounded. The guy just wants to win.
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He creates a toxic atmosphere wherever he goes because he "just wants to win." High expectations are good, as long as you offer a high level of support. That's what makes great organizations of any kind. The problem with LeBron is that he offers zero support, and high expectations combined with no support is just bullying.

I mean, at which point in the past decade can you say that a LeBron team wasn't in some kind of turmoil? Even when they were winning, it was always some kind of instability. No one is ever safe; not teammates, not coaches. The moment something isn't going his way, he's throwing people under the bus and passive-aggressively asking for changes. His last season in Cleveland, he sent his coach and man sidekick to the hospital with anxiety. Last year with the Lakers, he said all the right stuff when he signed about how he knows the team is not a contender and how he's happy(at this stage in his career) to mentor the kids and help them develop.

What happened the moment they ran into difficulty? He was talking smack about the same kids, and then trying to force a trade for a superstar. We all know how that ended. Sure, it might be nice to play with LeBron when you're one of the superstar buddies he likes to team up with, but an NBA team is at least a dozen players. It doesn't look that fun to be one of the other guys. The Lakers are already being anointed as the 2020 Champs by bookies and journalists. What happens when there is inevitable problems during the season? What happens when the don't win the championship, which they probably won't?
 
LoPo said:
For my money, there is no best player in the NBA right now. However, I would say that the rankings go like...

1. LeBron
1. Durant (pre-injury)
1. Kawhi
1. Giannis

Everybody else... You have to remember, the Raptors went 17-5 when Kawhi rested last year. In other words, they were awesome without him. The Lakers were a home court western conference playoff team until LeBron missed 17 games due to injury. LeBron is that good and important.
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The Lakers had the easiest schedule in the NBA up till Lebron got hurt.

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framer said:
You aren't even getting THAT for 27 million. Jazz need to take Caruso from them.
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I’d be more than happy to get him, but at what cost? Room exception too much or too little? I really don’t know how to gauge his market. He seems like a guy who could be like DMC or Bazemore that gets a small 2 year contract, becomes a consistent rotation player and then is in line for a much bigger pay raise.
 
Kyoto said:
The lakers had one of the easiest opening schedules in the league. I dont think it was a coincidence that as soon as the schedule started getting more difficult that LBJ had an injury that sat him out

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Just saw you posted this. 100% truth

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Ellis269 said:
I’d be more than happy to get him, but at what cost? Room exception too much or too little. I really don’t know how to gauge his market. He seems like a guy who could be like DMC or Bazemore that gets a small 2 year contract, becomes a consistent rotation player and then is in line for a much bigger pay raise.
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Does Exum's contract remain the same amount if he is ded?

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JimLes said:
He creates a toxic atmosphere wherever he goes because he "just wants to win." High expectations are good, as long as you offer a high level of support. That's what makes great organizations of any kind. The problem with LeBron is that he offers zero support, and high expectations combined with no support is just bullying.

I mean, at which point in the past decade can you say that a LeBron team wasn't in some kind of turmoil? Even when they were winning, it was always some kind of instability. No one is ever safe; not teammates, not coaches. The moment something isn't going his way, he's throwing people under the bus and passive-aggressively asking for changes. His last season in Cleveland, he sent his coach and man sidekick to the hospital with anxiety. Last year with the Lakers, he said all the right stuff when he signed about how he knows the team is not a contender and how he's happy(at this stage in his career) to mentor the kids and help them develop.

What happened the moment they ran into difficulty? He was talking smack about the same kids, and then trying to force a trade for a superstar. We all know how that ended. Sure, it might be nice to play with LeBron when you're one of the superstar buddies he likes to team up with, but an NBA team is at least a dozen players. It doesn't look that fun to be one of the other guys. The Lakers are already being anointed as the 2020 Champs by bookies and journalists. What happens when there is inevitable problems during the season? What happens when the don't win the championship, which they probably won't?
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You have to understand one simple fact - the media sucks. Go watch CNN. Go watch FoxNews. It's all about creating drama. In Jordan's day, it was profitable to hide the drama (like MJ punching teammates, MJ gambling, etc.). Painting a picture of perfection helped to build the NBA after a time filled with cocaine, drugs, and off the court drama. Now, it's profitable to create any drama possible even when it doesn't exist.

So much of the LeBron stuff is overblown. Prior to this season, the only issue was Kyrie yet Kyrie was the issue. This season, LaVar was distraction. Injuries were an issue. A poor roster construction was an issue. Youthfulness was an issue. LeBron wasn't the main issue. Yes, his desire to win didn't help kids who weren't ready, but do you blame him for trying to win? The guy had been to 8 straight Finals and signed for a team whose FO screwed up filling the roster and the young guys just didn't perform. And people got hurt.

If LeBron takes AD to places he's never been this year (like past the 2nd round), this whole garbage about LeBron turmoil can finally be put to rest. His teammates love him. He wins. That's what matters.
 
LoPo said:
You have to understand one simple fact - the media sucks. Go watch CNN. Go watch FoxNews. It's all about creating drama. In Jordan's day, it was profitable to hide the drama (like MJ punching teammates, MJ gambling, etc.). Painting a picture of perfection helped to build the NBA after a time filled with cocaine, drugs, and off the court drama. Now, it's profitable to create any drama possible even when it doesn't exist.

So much of the LeBron stuff is overblown. Prior to this season, the only issue was Kyrie yet Kyrie was the issue. This season, LaVar was distraction. Injuries were an issue. A poor roster construction was an issue. Youthfulness was an issue. LeBron wasn't the main issue. Yes, his desire to win didn't help kids who weren't ready, but do you blame him for trying to win? The guy had been to 8 straight Finals and signed for a team whose FO screwed up filling the roster and the young guys just didn't perform. And people got hurt.

If LeBron takes AD to places he's never been this year (like past the 2nd round), this whole garbage about LeBron turmoil can finally be put to rest. His teammates love him. He wins. That's what matters.
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So, the guy goes back to Cleveland and gets the nickname "LeGM". It may or may not be true that he ran the show there, fine, rumors are rumors. Then he signs with the Lakers and there are rumors about tampering with Davis and the Pelicans,... weird... then everyone on the team quits on him... weird... they all get traded for AD.

Rumors are rumors, sure. But if it acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...

Yeah

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