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ESPN now reporting that Eric Gordon of the Rockets is now up for grabs! Seems like more than a decent 3 point shooter! Should the Jazz be interested? ABSOLUTELY!
 
ChicAggie said:
Totally agree re Niko. I don't get the love: it seems to be based on a 25-game stretch with an underperforming and out-of-contention Bulls team. He's never replicated that stretch at any other time in his career.
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We would be paying him for roughly his average career production... which per 36 his career numbers are 18/9 on 42/36/81 shooting splits. We aren't expecting to get the guy that went 24/9 on 47/43/82... if he was that he would be getting a max type deal.

He has the ability to get nuclear hot... he could also disappear at times... he'd be our fifth best starter... that is kind of what fifth starters do. The difference is he'd provide space when he is out there no matter what... so the other guys will have more room to operate. He'd also be under contract longer and be a long term piece.

If you could find a stretch 4 who is a lock down defender I would very much prefer that... those guys aren't out there and aren't cheap when they are. Niko ain't perfect, but there is a lot to like.
 
We pick up JJ Redick and Eric Gordon in addition to what we've got now.....that's called "DECK STACKING" we now become hands down favorites to win the West! It's only money. I say the Jazz DO IT!
 
I could see the Jazz:
a) inquiring about Khris Middleton, but not getting far
b) pursuing Tobias Harris, but not signing him -- they like him but may not want to pay $30M
c) pursuing a sign-and-trade of Favors/Neto to the Clippers for Danilo Gallinari
d) offering Mirotic $15M/year and renouncing Favors' option -- the Jazz would then pursue another big in free agency
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We would be paying him for roughly his average career production... which per 36 his career numbers are 18/9 on 42/36/81 shooting splits. We aren't expecting to get the guy that went 24/9 on 47/43/82... if he was that he would be getting a max type deal.

He has the ability to get nuclear hot... he could also disappear at times... he'd be our fifth best starter... that is kind of what fifth starters do. The difference is he'd provide space when he is out there no matter what... so the other guys will have more room to operate. He'd also be under contract longer and be a long term piece.

If you could find a stretch 4 who is a lock down defender I would very much prefer that... those guys aren't out there and aren't cheap when they are. Niko ain't perfect, but there is a lot to like.
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You make good points, but I wonder how much damage someone like Niko or Jabari would do at the defensive end. I think Favors's contributions there may be significantly undervalued - and potentially more valuable than the uptick in value at the offensive end in terms of spacing that one of those types might bring.
 
carolinajazz said:
We pick up JJ Redick and Eric Gordon in addition to what we've got now.....that's called "DECK STACKING" we now become hands down favorites to win the West! It's only money. I say the Jazz DO IT!
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Who are you trading for Eric Gordon and where does the 1st round pick they want back come from? How do we get under the salary cap enough to have money to sign JJ?

The only option for Gordon is Ingles. Do you want to make that trade? For JJ we would have to drop Favors do you want that for JJ? So we have Donovan, Gordon, and JJ for SGs? Seems like a good idea.
 
ChicAggie said:
You make good points, but I wonder how much damage someone like Niko or Jabari would do at the defensive end. I think Favors's contributions there may be significantly undervalued - and potentially more valuable than the uptick in value at the offensive end in terms of spacing that one of those types might bring.
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I mean Jabari and Niko are different levels of bad... Parker gives zero effs about defense... he said as much. Niko isn't good but his bad defense is being exaggerated. He rebounds and is tall so he picks up a block or two. He's not as slow laterally as guys like Kanter. I think he can survive but in certain matchups, like if we play LA and they run James and Davis at the 4/5, he isn't ideal. He won't get played off the floor like some suggest.. he might get less playing time in some matchups... just like Favs.
 
Catchall said:
I could see the Jazz:
a) inquiring about Khris Middleton, but not getting far
b) pursuing Tobias Harris, but not signing him -- they like him but may not want to pay $30M
c) pursuing a sign-and-trade of Favors/Neto to the Clippers for Danilo Gallinari
d) offering Mirotic $15M/year and renouncing Favors' option -- the Jazz would then pursue another big in free agency
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A) the Jazz aren’t close to having a max slot
B) the Jazz aren’t close to having a max slot
C) I’m not sure why the Clippers would do that
D) Yes-ish. This is the only thing we would appear to remotely have any control over.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I mean Jabari and Niko are different levels of bad... Parker gives zero effs about defense... he said as much. Niko isn't good but his bad defense is being exaggerated. He rebounds and is tall so he picks up a block or two. He's not as slow laterally as guys like Kanter. I think he can survive but in certain matchups, like if we play LA and they run James and Davis at the 4/5, he isn't ideal. He won't get played off the floor like some suggest.. he might get less playing time in some matchups... just like Favs.
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Right again. Jabari is definitely worse on D -- probably mainly due to lack of effort. Nikola is absolutely not terrible, but some of the analytical numbers like Win Shares/48 and Plus/Minus make me question whether he brings more to the table than Favors. I suppose he could be just what the doctor ordered, but I am not comfortable predicting that.
 
ChicAggie said:
Right again. Jabari is definitely worse on D -- probably mainly due to lack of effort. Nikola is absolutely not terrible, but some of the analytical numbers like Win Shares/48 and Plus/Minus make me question whether he brings more to the table than Favors. I suppose he could be just what the doctor ordered, but I am not comfortable predicting that.
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The question is not WHAT the production is, but HOW it is produced and how it fits with our roster.

Looking at broad numbers - even advanced ones - only tell a fraction of the story. If it told the whole story, Favors would play more than 23 MPG in the regular season and more than 20 MPG in the playoffs.
 
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