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Jingled said:




So the front office puts together by far the best roster we've had under Quin and ESPN ranks us worse than they have the past 3 years...makes perfect sense.
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Warriors outside the top 10 too... people forgot that the Warriors were good pre-KD I guess.

The west is bonkers... again.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Apparently. 5th string point guard isn’t a thing, so they might as well have created some salary ballast for a potential future trade by getting a savvy veteran as a mentor instead of a project that won’t play.

It just doesn’t make any sense to me. I know this should be a quibble but it reeks of a phoned-in or pet move and that **** drives me bonkers as a matter of principle.

I don’t know what I’m talking about and my anger is obviously completely irrational.
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I think I understand this line of argument. I don't disagree with it in theory. I may not think it's as vital as you do, but it does make some sense.

The biggest issue I see is that you have to get the veteran you intend to sign to be on board with the plan/role (as against what they could be offered from virtually every other team, since we're dealing with minimum contracts, basically). I'm not sure how many would want to come here as 13th/14th men with a good chance of being used as salary fodder sometime later in the season. At that point, I think we're just as good using the 13th/14th roster spots to take a Royce-type flyer on a relative unknown.

Of course my point here depends on the Jazz intending to use those veterans in the way I described. The Jazz, or you, might have different ideas.
 
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TheStormofWar said:
Not sure what you're expecting on the seconds. But if they turn into any sort of capable NBA player, they would likely be under control contract wise for likely a half-decade. They also become minor assets if they play overseas, which can be used in other trades. Utah loses nothing in purchasing those picks.
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What I'm saying is that by buying second round picks (and spending a lot on them) the FO is giving the impression that these guys are good enough to be on the 15 man and very possibly be contributors. Teams don't generally purchase picks to take players that won't contribute. And the Jazz definitely don't do that. Yeah, we can keep them on two ways. But guys on two way contracts can only play in like 45 games and can't play in the playoffs. Was it worth buying the picks just for that? Two way spots aren't hard to fill.
 
Jingled said:




So the front office puts together by far the best roster we've had under Quin and ESPN ranks us worse than they have the past 3 years...makes perfect sense.
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I know nothing about gambling, but somehow our title odds (14-1) are better than three teams ranked ahead of us (Nuggets, Celtics and Blazers). Guess it has something to do with expected betting behaviour? Lakers have the best odds at 3-1, but are ranked 6th.
 
Udidthizz said:
I know nothing about gambling, but somehow our title odds (14-1) are better than three teams ranked ahead of us (Nuggets, Celtics and Blazers). Guess it has something to do with expected betting behaviour? Lakers have the best odds at 3-1, but are ranked 6th.
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Yeah, we all know that heavy betting action out of Utah skews these type of things for big markets like the Jazz. . .
 
SCS said:
What I'm saying is that by buying second round picks (and spending a lot on them) the FO is giving the impression that these guys are good enough to be on the 15 man and very possibly be contributors. Teams don't generally purchase picks to take players that won't contribute. And the Jazz definitely don't do that. Yeah, we can keep them on two ways. But guys on two way contracts can only play in like 45 games and can't play in the playoffs. Was it worth buying the picks just for that? Two way spots aren't hard to fill.
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I think the jazz actually put thought into their G League team, and utilize it pretty well in developing their style of play. What good is it to send youngsters to develop there if it is run like glorified summer league. The Jazz are serious about player development and this shows the level of commitment.
 
Udidthizz said:
Going by the members of this forum Jazz fans are a bunch of weirdos. Who am I to judge what they do with their money.
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If I could get odds on the ESPN predictions, I might be tempted to do something there. Jazz sixth in the West and ninth overall. . .
 
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