Jazz Decades Round 1 Voting: Salmon Hobo vs. Chad Feldheimer

[prodigy]

vote for which team would advance

SalmonHobo
PG- Jason Kidd (00's NBA), Jerry West (70's NBA)
SG- Jerry West (70's NBA), Bobby Hansen (80's Jazz)
SF- Larry Bird (80's NBA), Bryon Russell (90's Jazz)
PF- Pau Gasol (10's NBA), Andrei Kirilenko (00's Jazz)
C- Shaquille O'Neal (90's NBA), Fesenko (10's Jazz)

Chad Feldheimer
PG: J.Stockton(90s Jazz)
SG: K.Bryant(00s NBA), C.Drexler(80s NBA), N.Williams(70s Jazz
SF: C.Drexler(80s NBA), A.Dantley(80s Jazz)
PF: C.Barkley(90s NBA), A.Stoudemire(10s NBA), P.Millsap(00s Jazz)
C: W.Chamberlain(70s), A.Stoudemire (10s NBA)

 

[colton]

This has been the easiest one for me to vote on.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Although I love West, Bird and Shaq on a team, I cannot go against Stockton, Bryant, Drexler, Dantley, Barkley, Stoudemire, and Chamberlain on the same team.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Im going Hobo on this one.

 

[colton]

The way I look at it,

Kobe > Bird
Stockton > Kidd
Drexler ~ West
Barkley/Stoudamire >> Gasol/Kirilenko, and
Wilt > Shaq

By flip-flopping the two wing positions, Chad Feldheimer's team is better than or equal to SalmonHobo's team at every single position. No brainer. Only thing Chad's team is missing is a backup PG, but that role could likely go to either Kobe or Drexler.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Reason: Shaq was one of the most dominant players ever. Gasol would be perfect next to him, cover up his softness.Bird,Kidd, and West are all willing passers. Drexler,Barkley,Chamberlain,Bryant just seems like too many scorers. I like Hobo's team potential chemistry.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Shaq > Wilt. Consider competition and that its 70's Wilt, not 60's Wilt.

 

[colton]

Reason: Shaq was one of the most dominant players ever.

And what about Wilt?? He was FAR more dominant in his day than Shaq was in his.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And what about Wilt?? He was FAR more dominant in his day than Shaq was in his.

Competition in Shaq's era is far,far superior.

 

[colton]

You can make a case that Wilt was THE greatest player ever. I don't think you can make that case for Shaq. See for example:

https://hubpages.com/hub/MJ-or-Wilt
https://pweb.netcom.com/~bjalas/basketball/wilt.htm
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...t-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, 70's Wilt was not that dominant.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You can make a case that Wilt was THE greatest player ever. I don't think you can make that case for Shaq. See for example:

https://hubpages.com/hub/MJ-or-Wilt
https://pweb.netcom.com/~bjalas/basketball/wilt.htm
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...t-chamberlain-is-the-greatest-nba-player-ever

70's only buddy. 90's for Shaq.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Plus, if you are judging it solely from a #'s standpoint, and not taking into account competition of the times, Shaq's 90's stats still destroys Wilt's 70's stats and are higher over a longer period of time!

 

[colton]

Sorry, last post on the subject... how many rule changes did they make because of Shaq?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Wilt_Chamberlain#Rule_changes

* widening the lane
* instituting offensive goaltending
* revising rules governing inbounding the ball
* revising rules governing shooting free throws. "Chamberlain, who reportedly had a 50-inch vertical leap, was physically capable of converting foul shots via a slam dunk without a running start (beginning his movement at the top of the key)."

Oh yeah, and a 50 inch vertical leap?? That's ridiculous. How big was Shaq's vertical leap?

 

[colton]

70's only buddy. 90's for Shaq.

Ah, I see. Not allowed to think about Wilt from the 1960's? In that case, I can see your point.

 

[The Midnight]

I have a feeling the poll is biased towards Stockton...

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I have a feeling the poll is biased towards Stockton...

So do I.

I have two of the four greatest clutch players (Jordan and Bryant being the others imo) in history with Bird and West. When it comes to pretty much stacked teams across the board in match-ups like these, that matters and matters a ton imo. I have a center who was dominant and also knew how to carry teams and win rings, a point guard who was also a great leader and took two ******** teams to two title appearances and Gasol who has won two rings himnself andd my team is stacked with championship ring caliber players. Hell, I have nine titles appearances (and six rings) NOT COUNTING Bird or West. I also have a long front court. Gasol at the 4. Bird at 6'9" at the 3.

 

[zbone]

Hobo's starting five seems stronger but I don't see why Chad's starting five wouldn't be able to keep it not so one-sided. But then Chad's bench would destroy Hobo's bench. The most difficult matchup for me. I'm going with Chad.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Compare my group of winners to a team with guys like Stockton (zero rings), Barkley (zero rings), and Wilt (who cared more about stats than winning) as well as the chemistry factory and I see my team being just that, a team who would win when it matters.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Hobo's starting five seems stronger but I don't see why Chad's starting five wouldn't be able to keep it not so one-sided. But then Chad's bench would destroy Hobo's bench. The most difficult matchup for me. I'm going with Chad.

My guys would all play 48 minutes a game, well except for Shaq. Fes would play four minutes in the 1st half and four in the 2nd.