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Trade question.

gregbroncs said:
Dallas did not just improve their defense with Chandler. They got a new coach. They added quite a few defensive minded players besides Chandler. Kidd, Stevenson, Haywood, Marion and Butler are all above average defenders added to their roster over the last few years.

Basically they decided with Terry and Dirk they had 2 terrific offensive players and needed to surround them with defensive players that could also add a little to the offense. So they got rid of all their offense only players except the 2 best. Replaced them with defensive minded players. And changed their defensive system.

Getting a defensive minded big is something I hope we have solved with the addition of Favors. Now lets see if the system changes and if we can get enough defensive players at other positions while not losing too much offensive firepower.
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The puzzle will be incomplete for one more year as the Jazz need to draft their future SF. Until then it will be a patchwork solution of using Hayward (200 lbs) on the quicker ones and Millsap (250 lbs) on the stronger SFs (Melo, Bron).
 
Jazz4ever said:
The puzzle will be incomplete for one more year as the Jazz need to draft their future SF. Until then it will be a patchwork solution of using Hayward (200 lbs) on the quicker ones and Millsap (250 lbs) on the stronger SFs (Melo, Bron).
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Who is your realistic preferrence to select in '12?
 
PKM said:
Who is your realistic preferrence to select in '12?
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I'm not comfortably leaning toward any one guy yet as there isn't enough to go on with most of the prospects being freshman. I guess that's why I'm really looking forward to the college season. The Jazz have to value three point shooting higher than most though as Hayward is going to be the only reliable three point threat. Barnes is probably out of the Jazz range barring they get a top 3 lottery pick, but obviously would prefer him - picture perfect shooting mechanics. Do you think any of these freshmen project to be good long range shooters: Gilchrist, Miller, Thomas? I'm somewhat on the fence about Terrence Jones. He is a little too power forwardish for me, but if he kills it form three point range this year would have no problem taking him.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I'm not comfortably leaning toward any one guy yet as there isn't enough to go on with most of the prospects being freshman. I guess that's why I'm really looking forward to the college season. The Jazz have to value three point shooting higher than most though as Hayward is going to be the only reliable three point threat. Barnes is probably out of the Jazz range barring they get a top 3 lottery pick, but obviously would prefer him - picture perfect shooting mechanics. Do you think any of these freshmen project to be good long range shooters: Gilchrist, Miller, Thomas? I'm somewhat on the fence about Terrence Jones. He is a little too power forwardish for me, but if he kills it form three point range this year would have no problem taking him.
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Barnes only shot 34.5% from behind the arc. Gillie show 40% but not nearly as many. Thomas isn't much better. Quincy Miller is the best shooting elite SF in the draft, but I wouldn't draft him ahead of Barnes or Gillie (lazy, attitude is questionable, etc).

As SF's go, I actually say it's #1a - Barnes, #1b - Gilchrist, #3 - Miller, #4 Thomas .. then a pretty decent drop-off. As you said, though, need to watch the season unfold. I project Barnes' season will be volume scorer, though not very efficient. I see Gilchrist scoring only a few points less than Barnes, but much more efficiently. Gilchrist has a 10+ intangible, 10+ motor, and averaged better than 5 BLOCKS per game as a SF and against the top-tier national competition. Barnes will get the pub because he's more flashy, whereas bb purists will recognize Gilchrist for all the non stat-sheet stuff.

/rambling
 
PKM said:
Barnes only shot 34.5% from behind the arc. Gillie show 40% but not nearly as many. Thomas isn't much better. Quincy Miller is the best shooting elite SF in the draft, but I wouldn't draft him ahead of Barnes or Gillie (lazy, attitude is questionable, etc).

As SF's go, I actually say it's #1a - Barnes, #1b - Gilchrist, #3 - Miller, #4 Thomas .. then a pretty decent drop-off. As you said, though, need to watch the season unfold. I project Barnes' season will be volume scorer, though not very efficient. I see Gilchrist scoring only a few points less than Barnes, but much more efficiently. Gilchrist has a 10+ intangible, 10+ motor, and averaged better than 5 BLOCKS per game as a SF and against the top-tier national competition. Barnes will get the pub because he's more flashy, whereas bb purists will recognize Gilchrist for all the non stat-sheet stuff.

/rambling
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Agree with everything you said. Quick question though, what's the lowest draft spot Gilchrist/Miller could drop to in your opinion?
 
colton said:
While that might be nice, I'm hoping that he will complement Favors, also. :-)
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I think PrinceJL had it right the first time. Favors is a young guy and kind of a loner. I'm hoping Kanter will come in and say, "nice block,"way to box out on that rebound," or even, "nice threads" prior to the game. Get Derrick feeling good about himself and it should translate into harder work on the court.
 
spycam1 said:
Agree with everything you said. Quick question though, what's the lowest draft spot Gilchrist/Miller could drop to in your opinion?
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Gilchrist could go 7 - 11, imo
Miller about the same ..

I would take Gillie over Miller everyday of the week, though.
 
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