I will not be held hostage. You can, but it's a **** decision that you can't get out of. You'll be doing that all your life until you decide it's ****.
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I will not be held hostage. You can, but it's a **** decision that you can't get out of. You'll be doing that all your life until you decide it's ****.
https://amp.axios.com/trump-tweets-...-un-5efa6215-2dbd-4eef-9fdd-334f093ef2b8.html
"I believe that Chairman Kim has a great and beautiful vision for his country..."
Wow, just wow.
"I believe that Chairman Kim has a great and beautiful vision for his country..."
Wow, just wow.
My third party vote impacts the election every bit as much as your Democrat vote. Do you not understand how counting works?
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No, apparently I don’t. Could you explain it to me again for the 10th time? I think the board would love yet another post like that.
Listen, I didn’t @ you nor are you the only one on here who has said they’re entertaining the thought of voting third party. So I’m not sure why you’re going after me.
I do think voting for a party/candidate who has no chance of winning who you probably have even less in common with than the mainstream Democrat all because you don’t agree 100 percent with the Democrats is utterly asinine.
While we’re rehashing old arguments; There are bigger issues at stake than abortion.
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Literally praising one of the world’s worst dictators.
Seems like the right time to repost this. Most of this comes from his book, “Escape from Camp 14.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Dong-hyuk
Shin Dong-hyuk (born Shin In Geun, 19 November 1982 or 1980 is a North Korean human rights activist. He is reputed to be the only known prisoner to have successfully escaped from a "total-control zone" grade internment camp in North Korea.
Shin has given talks to audiences around the world about his life in Camp 14 and about the totalitarian North Korean regime to raise awareness of the situation in North Korean internment and concentration campsand North Korea. Shin has been described as the world's "single strongest voice" on the atrocities inside North Korean camps by a member of the United Nations' first commission of inquiry into human rights abuses of North Korea.
He was born to two prisoners who were allowed to marry as a reward for good work, although "neither bride nor groom had much say in deciding whom they would marry." Shin's father, Shin Gyung Sub, told Shin that the guards gave him his mother, Jang Hye-gyung, as payment for his skill in operating a metal lathe in the camp's machine shop. Shin lived with his mother until he was 12. He rarely saw his father who lived elsewhere in the camp and was allowed to visit a few times a year. According to Shin, he saw his mother as a competitor for their insufficient food rations, and consequently had no bonds of affection with his parents or his brother, Shin He Geun. The North Korean government officials and camp guards told him he was imprisoned because his parents had committed crimes against the state, and that he had to work hard and always obey the guards; otherwise he would be punished or executed.
Shin experienced considerable violence in the camp, and witnessed dozens of executions every year. Part of Shin's right middle finger was cut off by his supervisor as punishment for accidentally breaking a sewing machine.
When Shin was 13 years old, he overheard his mother and brother planning an escape attempt. Shin had just finished eating watery corn porridge, and was trying to sleep until he overheard that He Geun, his brother had run from the cement factory. Shin's mother, Jang was preparing rice, a symbol of wealth in North Korea for the escape from Camp 14. Shin was jealous his brother was getting rice. Shin's teacher was already in the gated Bowiwon village, so Shin told the night guard of his school with another boy, as informing was something he was taught to do from an early age, and he hoped to be rewarded. However, the school night guard took full credit for discovering the plan, and rather than being rewarded, Shin was arrested and guards tortured him for four days to extract more information, believing him to be part of the plan to escape.
According to Shin, the guards lit a charcoal fire under his back and forced a hook into his skin so that he could not struggle which caused many large scars still visible on his body. On 29 November 1996, after approximately seven months spent in a tiny concrete prison cell, he was released and joined by his father, who had also been imprisoned. They were driven back to the main camp wearing blindfolds and their hands tied behind their backs. Camp officials then forced Shin and his father to watch the public executions of Shin's mother and brother.
Imagine the outrage if Obama or Clinton had praised Kim? Republicans would’ve had them impeached, indicted, and lynched by dinner today.
No, apparently I don’t. Could you explain it to me again for the 10th time? I think the board would love yet another post like that.
Listen, I didn’t @ you nor are you the only one on here who has said they’re entertaining the thought of voting third party. So I’m not sure why you’re going after me.
I'm going to reply every time I notice you saying that voting third party is "throwing their votes away", because you are just flat out wrong on this. And its insulting to those of us who voted third party last election, and who might be voting third party again this election (for me it'll depend who the Democrats nominate; there are some I would vote for and some I would not).
Thinking your individual vote does ANYTHING at all to sway the election is asinine. (Do you like it when I say insulting things about your point of view?)
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Well I know some people think that voting 3rd party actually helps to rid is of a 2 party system in the future (I agree)
I would also say that voting Democrat, even living in Utah, could have an effect on the way the elections work in the future.
Let's say Trump wins the nomination again. But loses the popular vote again. I could see people trying to change the electoral college if the losing president wins the popular vote enough times.
At a minimum it gives the electoral college and the whole election process a black eye.
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Serious question: Why do you even vote if you feel like your vote is pointless/worthless?
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The EC isn’t going anywhere even with third party votes. You’ll need 2/3rds of Congress or 2/3rds of the states to do it. Republicans won’t ever agree to this because it’s the only thing keeping them in power.
Once again, voting democrats gives you the best chance to do this as democrats already want to get rid of the EC. Give them the senate and they just might. They’ll need 2/3rds or the senate, so I don’t think that’s even possible this cycle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution
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And I’ll continue to make posts mocking those who throw away their votes for third party candidates who they probably agree even less with democrats all because the democrats don’t give them 100 percent of what they want.
There are bigger issues than abortion.
Why do you vote? Same answer, probably. I'm guessing you don't vote because you think your individual vote will make any difference at all.
If the bolded section were true, then perhaps your mocking would be appropriate. But it's not.