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Archie Moses said:
In the United States, yes. However, routinely, there are terrorists bombing outside of the US that are rarely talked about and much, much more people are killed.

E.G. The Easter Bombings in Sri Lanka this year that killed 259 people.
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That doesn't really have a lot of relevance to the situation in the US. I mean, yeah, radical islamist terror happens across the world, not sure what that has to do with white supremacist mass shooters here in the US.
 
Zombie said:
That doesn't really have a lot of relevance to the situation in the US. I mean, yeah, radical islamist terror happens across the world, not sure what that has to do with white supremacist mass shooters here in the US.
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We were specifically talking about "bombs/explosives."
 
The Thriller said:
I disagree.

All industrialized countries have identities.
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That’s not what I was arguing, go back and read what I said.

The “identity” of being “white” in this country is a myth. It is not authentic. Not even close.

People with beige skin have an authentic identity that is tied to the original country that their parents or grandparents came from. The term white came into popularity in the 1700s during the Atlantic slave trade. So it is an identity completely tied to the American tradition of human trafficking.

It is a ****ing lie.
 
fishonjazz said:
Dont act like explosives are the same convenience and ease of guns.
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I won’t. Thanks for the reminder. I completely understand that guns are a luxury, and that this is a country of luxuries. So on that point we agree.

But the post-ban era will bring with it a a whole slew of unintended consequences. Including a desperate beige populace who not only insist that they are white, but will prove their “superiority” with higher death tolls.

You see, once you introduce a myth as a legit race, you bring with it the consequences of “white supremacy”. Which is what this country has subsisted on since its beginning.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
That’s not what I was arguing, go back and read what I said.

The “identity” of being “white” in this country is a myth. It is not authentic. Not even close.

People with beige skin have an authentic identity that is tied to the original country that their parents or grandparents came from. The term white came into popularity in the 1700s during the Atlantic slave trade. So it is an identity completely tied to the American tradition of human trafficking.

It is a ****ing lie.
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No. That’s laughable history. As not at all relevant to our discussion today.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
I won’t. Thanks for the reminder. I completely understand that guns are a luxury, and that this is a country of luxuries. So on that point we agree.

But the post-ban era will bring with it a a whole slew of unintended consequences. Including a desperate beige populace who not only insist that they are white, but will prove their “superiority” with higher death tolls.

You see, once you introduce a myth as a legit race, you bring with it the consequences of “white supremacy”. Which is what this country has subsisted on since its beginning.
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This is complete and utter nonsense
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
I won’t. Thanks for the reminder. I completely understand that guns are a luxury, and that this is a country of luxuries. So on that point we agree.

But the post-ban era will bring with it a a whole slew of unintended consequences. Including a desperate beige populace who not only insist that they are white, but will prove their “superiority” with higher death tolls.

You see, once you introduce a myth as a legit race, you bring with it the consequences of “white supremacy”. Which is what this country has subsisted on since its beginning.
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What's stopping these guys from just going straight to bombings now? If the (ugh) cost/benefit of bombing is so much greater then they'd already be doing it.

They don't because it takes a lot more practical knowledge to pull something like that off, and procuring the ingredients necessary is much more likely to bring attention to authorities.

I just don't buy the idea that taking guns away from these nuts is going to lead to an increase in more deadly bombing attacks in the future. It hasn't happened in the UK, Australia, Canada, you know countries with similar political stability as ours who have enacted stricter gun control.

Pointing to examples of bombings in countries with vastly different political situations rife with sectarian violence doesn't really make sense.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
That’s not what I was arguing, go back and read what I said.

The “identity” of being “white” in this country is a myth. It is not authentic. Not even close.

People with beige skin have an authentic identity that is tied to the original country that their parents or grandparents came from. The term white came into popularity in the 1700s during the Atlantic slave trade. So it is an identity completely tied to the American tradition of human trafficking.

It is a ****ing lie.
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I mean, it's about as much a myth as any other racial category.
 
Archie Moses said:


There 100% needs to be more gun laws, especially when it comes to assault rifles. Tired of seeing these mass shootings. I was at Lagoon yesterday (it was a gawd damn nightmare with billions of people) and kept thinking a mass shooting was going to happen.

That said, don't be a sheepleton that says "thoughts and prayers." You're not clever and you're a ****.

At the end if the day, put your anger at the shooter, not the policies you disagree with. No decent human being wants this. None.
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But but but knives can kill multiple ppl too...but we need to protect our second amendment...blah blah blah lazy complete hollow R rhetoric.
 
Zombie said:
What's stopping these guys from just going straight to bombings now? If the (ugh) cost/benefit of bombing is so much greater then they'd already be doing it.

They don't because it takes a lot more practical knowledge to pull something like that off, and procuring the ingredients necessary is much more likely to bring attention to authorities.

I just don't buy the idea that taking guns away from these nuts is going to lead to an increase in more deadly bombing attacks in the future. It hasn't happened in the UK, Australia, Canada, you know countries with similar political stability as ours who have enacted stricter gun control.

Pointing to examples of bombings in countries with vastly different political situations rife with sectarian violence doesn't really make sense.
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Listen I started writing a book about 12 years ago. Got writers block about 85 pages in...Archie Moses probably remembers it. I sent it to a few ppl on here...anyway, the whole premise was about a person who starts “randomly” bombing things...car bombings...small strip mall...up to something huge...a school with 2,000 kids...could anything be worse than that? The idea was about the fear that the unpredictable violence would inflict on a society...reminiscent to me at least of the DC sniper who was picking off people at random, public places...except in my imagination the hurt would be far worse. 2,000 people. Children...anyway, yeah, given the direction our society is headed, I don’t see how we don’t have this begin to happen in the next 20 years....40 years...we will turn into a different version of the Middle East.
 
The Thriller said:
This is complete and utter nonsense
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The WS, neo Nazis, et al, want a race war. Ethnic cleansing is their entire goal. They rely on their deep sense of nationalism to garner sympathy to their cause.

But their entire identity is based on a construct of race. It is completely inauthentic. There is no “white country”, and there sure as **** is no “pure race”.

There is no “black” race, either. People are what they are, which is German, English, French, Nigerian, Congolese, etc.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Listen I started writing a book about 12 years ago. Got writers block about 85 pages in...Archie Moses probably remembers it. I sent it to a few ppl on here...anyway, the whole premise was about a person who starts “randomly” bombing things...car bombings...small strip mall...up to something huge...a school with 2,000 kids...could anything be worse than that? The idea was about the fear that the unpredictable violence would inflict on a society...reminiscent to me at least of the DC sniper who was picking off people at random, public places...except in my imagination the hurt would be far worse. 2,000 people. Children...anyway, yeah, given the direction our society is headed, I don’t see how we don’t have this begin to happen in the next 20 years....40 years...we will turn into a different version of the Middle East.
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I don't know if I buy that necessarily, but it's a conversation different from that of gun control. If our society is headed in that direction, the loss of easy access to guns isn't going to hasten it along.
 
Zombie said:
I don't know if I buy that necessarily, but it's a conversation different from that of gun control. If our society is headed in that direction, the loss of easy access to guns isn't going to hasten it along.
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Bombs aren’t difficult to make. If extremist Muslims really want to destroy who we are as a nation, they should start small with random car bombs as if we’re the MidEast. I would if I were them. Then build bigger. It would regionally bring us to our knees.

If anyone is reading this at the NSA or Dept of Homeland Security this is just Wes, aka Serp, talking here...I’m as normal as you get...but it’s sadly true and you know I’m right.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Bombs aren’t difficult to make. If extremist Muslims really want to destroy who we are as a nation, they should start small with random car bombs as if we’re the MidEast. I would if I were them. Then build bigger. It would regionally bring us to our knees.

If anyone is reading this at the NSA or Dept of Homeland Security this is just Wes, aka Serp, talking here...I’m as normal as you get...but it’s sadly true and you know I’m right.
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They aren't, but they're a lot more difficult compared to walking into a store and walking out with an assault rifle.

Again, bomb plots are found out and averted more often than mass shootings, and a big part of that is the difficulty in getting what you need to build one here in the US.

I'm sure extremist Muslim terrorists would love to carry out bomb attacks here, but they're orders of magnitude more difficult to carry out here than in bum**** Syria or Afghanistan.
 
Zombie said:
What's stopping these guys from just going straight to bombings now? If the (ugh) cost/benefit of bombing is so much greater then they'd already be doing it.

They don't because it takes a lot more practical knowledge to pull something like that off, and procuring the ingredients necessary is much more likely to bring attention to authorities.
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Americans use guns because their identity is caught up in gun ownership and use.

It is a deep tradition for Americans to not only own guns, but to use them to cleanse the land ethnically. And honest look at American history would yield no less than this fact.

First of all, you can’t even take their guns away. They are so stockpiled that it would take 20 years or more to have an effective ban.

But even if you did ban assault rifles, Etc., young neo-Nazis and white supremacist looking to cultivate their identities and reputation through violent acts would simply find another way. And the cheapest easiest way to do that is arson and explosives.
 
Americans already have an identity that is caught up in explosives, by the way. By and large, our country is proud of what we did to Nagasaki/Hiroshima.
 
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