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Wes Mantooth said:
Listen I started writing a book about 12 years ago. Got writers block about 85 pages in...Archie Moses probably remembers it. I sent it to a few ppl on here...anyway, the whole premise was about a person who starts “randomly” bombing things...car bombings...small strip mall...up to something huge...a school with 2,000 kids...could anything be worse than that? The idea was about the fear that the unpredictable violence would inflict on a society...reminiscent to me at least of the DC sniper who was picking off people at random, public places...except in my imagination the hurt would be far worse. 2,000 people. Children...anyway, yeah, given the direction our society is headed, I don’t see how we don’t have this begin to happen in the next 20 years....40 years...we will turn into a different version of the Middle East.
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I don't know if I buy that necessarily, but it's a conversation different from that of gun control. If our society is headed in that direction, the loss of easy access to guns isn't going to hasten it along.
 
Zombie said:
I don't know if I buy that necessarily, but it's a conversation different from that of gun control. If our society is headed in that direction, the loss of easy access to guns isn't going to hasten it along.
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Bombs aren’t difficult to make. If extremist Muslims really want to destroy who we are as a nation, they should start small with random car bombs as if we’re the MidEast. I would if I were them. Then build bigger. It would regionally bring us to our knees.

If anyone is reading this at the NSA or Dept of Homeland Security this is just Wes, aka Serp, talking here...I’m as normal as you get...but it’s sadly true and you know I’m right.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Bombs aren’t difficult to make. If extremist Muslims really want to destroy who we are as a nation, they should start small with random car bombs as if we’re the MidEast. I would if I were them. Then build bigger. It would regionally bring us to our knees.

If anyone is reading this at the NSA or Dept of Homeland Security this is just Wes, aka Serp, talking here...I’m as normal as you get...but it’s sadly true and you know I’m right.
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They aren't, but they're a lot more difficult compared to walking into a store and walking out with an assault rifle.

Again, bomb plots are found out and averted more often than mass shootings, and a big part of that is the difficulty in getting what you need to build one here in the US.

I'm sure extremist Muslim terrorists would love to carry out bomb attacks here, but they're orders of magnitude more difficult to carry out here than in bum**** Syria or Afghanistan.
 
Zombie said:
What's stopping these guys from just going straight to bombings now? If the (ugh) cost/benefit of bombing is so much greater then they'd already be doing it.

They don't because it takes a lot more practical knowledge to pull something like that off, and procuring the ingredients necessary is much more likely to bring attention to authorities.
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Americans use guns because their identity is caught up in gun ownership and use.

It is a deep tradition for Americans to not only own guns, but to use them to cleanse the land ethnically. And honest look at American history would yield no less than this fact.

First of all, you can’t even take their guns away. They are so stockpiled that it would take 20 years or more to have an effective ban.

But even if you did ban assault rifles, Etc., young neo-Nazis and white supremacist looking to cultivate their identities and reputation through violent acts would simply find another way. And the cheapest easiest way to do that is arson and explosives.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Americans use guns because their identity is caught up in gun ownership and use.

It is a deep tradition for Americans to not only own guns, but to use them to cleanse the land ethnically. And honest look at American history would yield no less than this fact.

First of all, you can’t even take their guns away. They are so stockpiled that it would take 20 years or more to have an effective ban.

But even if you did ban assault rifles, Etc., young neo-Nazis and white supremacist looking to cultivate their identities and reputation through violent acts would simply find another way. And the cheapest easiest way to do that is arson and explosives.
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Nah, you ban "assault rifles" and they just use semi-automatic rifles that don't fall under the "assault-rifle" category.

So you ban all semi-auto rifles and they use semi-auto handguns.

You ban those and they use revolvers with speed loaders.

I mean there's a long way to go until guns are no longer the preferred method of conducting these kinds of attacks.

But really, you ban one type/style and you still have people who have them that are completely unknown. These guns can remain operational for hundreds of years if even kind of cared for.
 
reignman40 said:
I wouldn't go that far to say we are proud of it. :eek:
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