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JazzyFresh said:
Hey man I want anybody but Trump at this point. It's time for healing and that buffoon would rather stroke his ego than bring this nation together. Problem is, I can't even post an opinion without the extremist left(you) spouting meanness for absolutely no reason. Scares the **** out of me. Both parties are nothing but radicals anymore.
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Which is absolute nonsense. Not supported at all by data. Democrats aren’t radicals at all. Historically, democrats haven’t moved significantly Over to the left. And internationally, they’re conservative. The most liberal democrats would be conservatives literally everywhere else in the industrialized world.

Single payer health care
Gun regulation
Progressive taxation
Women’s rights (choice)
Believing in science (climate change)
Treating immigrants like human beings (not committing war crimes or torture on them)

Aren't radical positions unless you’re already operating at an extreme right point of view. Which would make you the radical, not them.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Hey man I want anybody but Trump at this point. It's time for healing and that buffoon would rather stroke his ego than bring this nation together. Problem is, I can't even post an opinion without the extremist left(you) spouting meanness for absolutely no reason. Scares the **** out of me. Both parties are nothing but radicals anymore. I like Warren because I think she can bring that calmness. I may not entirely like her platform but compared to most others, she actually has one outside of the divisive my party vs your party bigotry.
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First off I'm not a "far leftist" secondly, if my first post scares the hell out of you I'd suggest you toughen up, it's a big old mean world out there. Nothing I said was even particularly mean lol.
 
Zombie said:
First off I'm not a "far leftist" secondly, if my first post scares the hell out of you I'd suggest you toughen up, it's a big old mean world out there. Nothing I said was even particularly mean lol.
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The Thriller said:
Which is absolute nonsense. Not supported at all by data. Democrats aren’t radicals at all. Historically, democrats haven’t moved significantly Over to the left. And internationally, they’re conservative. The most liberal democrats would be conservatives literally everywhere else in the industrialized world.

Single payer health care
Gun regulation
Progressive taxation
Women’s rights (choice)
Believing in science (climate change)

Aren't radical positions
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No they are not. By radicalized I mean this antifa type **** that if you disagree with something you are a "Trumper racist blah blah blah". Both of you automatically and wrongfully accused me of something and retaliated with vile attacks. For no reason.


This is the norm these days. Adults that can't even conversate without insults. We wonder why bad **** is always happening yet we don't look in the mirror on how we treat one another. "You disagree with me you're a bad person" ********. And yeah this goes both ways.

I live in Trump territory and 99% of these people are good loving humans.

I've lived in Obama territory and the same.

Being a dick to anyone just because of their political affiliation is nothing short of bigotry and highlights the problem with this country. We hate each other...
 
Zombie said:
First off I'm not a "far leftist" secondly, if my first post scares the hell out of you I'd suggest you toughen up, it's a big old mean world out there. Nothing I said was even particularly mean lol.
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So he personally believes Warren brings calmness but claimed that there was a consensus (somewhere? On the board? On twitter?) that her rhetoric was inciting violence on the level of trump, which has inspired at least 3 mass shooters and one white van pipe bomber.

Warren is one of the most “liberal” candidates. He also likes parts of her platform and claims that she appears to be a bipartisan figure, yet also claims that “both parties are radical.”

Oookay... so Warren is everything. Calm yet inciting violence. Has a good platform that might garner bipartisan support yet is one of the most radical of the radical party.

Cool
 
JazzyFresh said:
No they are not. By radicalized I mean this antifa type **** that if you disagree with something you are a "Trumper racist blah blah blah". Both of you automatically and wrongfully accused me of something and retaliated with vile attacks. For no reason.


This is the norm these days. Adults that can't even conversate without insults. We wonder why bad **** is always happening yet we don't look in the mirror on how we treat one another. "You disagree with me you're a bad person" ********. And yeah this goes both ways.

I live in Trump territory and 99% of these people are good loving humans.

I've lived in Obama territory and the same.

Being a dick to anyone just because of their political affiliation is nothing short of bigotry.
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And there we go again. ANTIFA. The scary word of the day. What relevance does it have? Who the hell knows?
 
The Thriller said:
So he personally believes Warren brings calmness but claimed that there was a consensus (somewhere? On the board? On twitter?) that her rhetoric was inciting violence on the level of trump, which has inspired at least 3 mass shooters and one white van pipe bomber.

Warren is one of the most “liberal” candidates. He also likes parts of her platform and claims that she appears to be a bipartisan figure, yet also claims that “both parties are radical.”

Oookay... so Warren is everything. Calm yet inciting violence. Has a good platform that might garner bipartisan support yet is one of the most radical of the radical party.

Cool
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I think he was referring to tying Trump to the shooter by the "general consensus" bit. It was really poorly worded though.
 
The Thriller said:
So he personally believes Warren brings calmness but claimed that there was a consensus (somewhere? On the board? On twitter?) that her rhetoric was inciting violence on the level of trump, which has inspired at least 3 mass shooters and one white van pipe bomber.

Warren is one of the most “liberal” candidates. He also likes parts of her platform and claims that she appears to be a bipartisan figure, yet also claims that “both parties are radical.”

Oookay... so Warren is everything. Calm yet inciting violence. Has a good platform that might garner bipartisan support yet is one of the most radical of the radical party.

Cool
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You have a weird imagination brotha. How you got all of that out of a paragraph or two is intriguing. I think you are reading what you want to read. I never said a majority of this. Actually any of it. You made the whole thing up lol.
 
The Thriller said:
And there we go again. ANTIFA. The scary word of the day. What relevance does it have? Who the hell knows?
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It's just a new buzzword that's caught on. I've no idea what antifa has to do with pointing out Trump's and Cornyn's and Carlson's and Ingrahm's (etc etc) violence inspiring rhetoric. Honestly, the only thing I did that was mildly vitriolic was call him a Trumper (probably because I have him on ignore for some reason, and everyone else on that list is a Trump supporting troll). He's tilting at windmills here.
 
JazzyFresh said:
So do we blame Elizabeth Warren(my vote right now), and demand every Democrat to renounce Antifa?

I say no but that seems to be the childish consensus going around.
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@Zombie so you’re saying the consensus that @JazzyFresh was describing here was that trump was responsible for inciting mass shootings with his rhetoric? Despite trump’s name not being used at all in this post? Hmmmm you’re right, this was a poorly worded post. Very confusing.

And why should democrats both sides this issue and renounce antifa? I don’t get it. Are democrats seeking antifa’s support? Were any of the shootings done to promote antifa’s agenda?

I’m just confused as to why some people are tying Warren, the democrats, and antifa together when the focus absolutely should be on trump, the republicans, and white supremacist terrorism.

Someone help me out here since I’m confused bigtime.
 
JazzyFresh said:
You have a weird imagination brotha. How you got all of that out of a paragraph or two is intriguing. I think you are reading what you want to read. I never said a majority of this. Actually any of it. You made the whole thing up lol.
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I get it from reading your poorly written posts.
 
JazzyFresh said:
You have a weird imagination brotha. How you got all of that out of a paragraph or two is intriguing. I think you are reading what you want to read. I never said a majority of this. Actually any of it. You made the whole thing up lol.
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I think he inferred it from your poorly worded post. It's not hard to see how he thought you said the general consensus was to blame Warren for the shooting, since that's kind of what you said (unintentionally).
 
The Thriller said:
@Zombie so you’re saying the consensus that @JazzyFresh was describing here was that trump was responsible for inciting mass shootings with his rhetoric? Despite trump’s name not being used at all in this post? Hmmmm you’re right, this was a poorly worded post. Very confusing.

And why should democrats both sides this issue and renounce antifa? I don’t get it. Are democrats seeking antifa’s support? Were any of the shootings done to promote antifa’s agenda?

I’m just confused as to why some people are tying Warren, the democrats, and antifa together when the focus absolutely should be on trump, the republicans, and white supremacist terrorism.

Someone help me out here since I’m confused bigtime.
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Lol its not? It's all I've been hearing for days. You are literally blaming a self proclaimed "lefty" killing people on Trump.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Lol its not? It's all I've been hearing for days. You are literally blaming a self proclaimed "lefty" killing people on Trump.
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I don't think anyone was blaming Trump for the Dayton shooting, aside from his ******** stance on gun control that is.
 
Zombie said:
I don't think anyone was blaming Trump for the Dayton shooting, aside from his ******** stance on gun control that is.
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Whats this mean then?

"I’m just confused as to why some people are tying Warren, the democrats, and antifa together when the focus absolutely should be on trump, the republicans, and white supremacist terrorism."
 
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