So because I see Trump for who he is I have something against conservatism? What is a conservative these days?
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So because I see Trump for who he is I have something against conservatism? What is a conservative these days?
Jonah
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"Is Donald Trump a fascist? The question is usually posed as an insult rather than as a serious inquiry. A common response is that “he is not as bad as Hitler”, but this rather dodges the issue. Hitler was one hideous exponent of fascism, which comes in different flavours but he was by no means the only one.
The answer is that fascist leaders and fascism in the 1920s and 1930s were similar in many respects to Trump and Trumpism. But they had additional toxic characteristics, born out of a different era and a historic experience different from the United States.
What are the most important features of fascism? They include ultra-nationalism and authoritarianism; the demonisation and persecution of minorities; a cult of the leader; a demagogic appeal to the “ignored” masses and against a “treacherous” establishment; contempt for parliamentary institutions; disregard for the law while standing on a law and order platform; control of the media and the crushing of criticism; slogans promising everything to everybody; a promotion of force as a means to an end leading to violence, militarism and war."
Full article here:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/0...tler-or-mussolini-yet-but-hes-getting-closer/
The answer is that fascist leaders and fascism in the 1920s and 1930s were similar in many respects to Trump and Trumpism. But they had additional toxic characteristics, born out of a different era and a historic experience different from the United States.
What are the most important features of fascism? They include ultra-nationalism and authoritarianism; the demonisation and persecution of minorities; a cult of the leader; a demagogic appeal to the “ignored” masses and against a “treacherous” establishment; contempt for parliamentary institutions; disregard for the law while standing on a law and order platform; control of the media and the crushing of criticism; slogans promising everything to everybody; a promotion of force as a means to an end leading to violence, militarism and war."
Full article here:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/0...tler-or-mussolini-yet-but-hes-getting-closer/
This is also a man who supported the First Step legislation.
He's a racist, venal child. He's not a murderous psychopath.
I have no problem identifying Trump as a fascist.
Hotdog
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You do know that he probably doesnt have his hands in day to day operations in his businesses right? Not before he became president and certainly not after. He said as much.
What the person does that you hire to be in charge is somewhat out of your control. You hire someone to turn a profit for your business. You mostly look at the numbers. You wouldnt micromanage at his level.
Funny, the grand conspiracies you people keep pushing. Throwing common sense right out the window to fit your narrative. Real honest work you are doing here Zombie.
candrew
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Actually Donald Trump and his administration has made me appreciate conservatives more than ever.
George Will
Max Boot
David Frum
John McCain
Steve Schmidt
John Kasich
Arnold Schwarzneggar
I guess in a sense he is bringing us all together.
Jonah
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Yeah, the comparison should be with fascism. The Hitler thing is unnecessarily distracting and counter-productive.
You do know that shirking responsibility is a bitch move, right?
Hotdog
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Its funny. The very definition of fascism is a good example of how the left is using cheap tactics and media manipulation to get their way.
In the screen shots below. You see the definition of fascism from Webster's dictionary and then from Wikipedia which is a know liberal controlled site. The page is locked and cannot be changed.
