White Privilege VS POC Disadvantage

[Deleted member 365]

Just move along, Thriller. This doesn’t concern you.

I’ll post wherever you want. Don’t blame me for your typing of a completely incomprehensible post. Do better

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

I thought jazzfanz already solved this one. JF, doing the people's work since 1999.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

I’ll post wherever you want. Don’t blame me for your typing of a completely incomprehensible post. Do better

Is that like when Tyrone Corbin says “get better”? If so, thanks for nothing. For the umpteenth time.

I’ll be speaking to people who understand history and can read complete sentences now, k? See you later.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Is that like when Tyrone Corbin says “get better”? If so, thanks for nothing. For the umpteenth time.

I’ll be speaking to people who understand history and can read complete sentences now, k? See you later.

You go do that! Go get em champ!

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Thanks twinkle toes!

Anyone else want to challenge me on the Miss Piggy thing? Do you think she’s playing a Caucasian, or a person of color?

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

If Miss Piggy is too abstract for you, then what about Ben Carson? Or Candace Owens? Or OJ Simpson?

POC put on that mask all the time. They perform as “whites”, and it gives them the privilege in question.

 

[Zombie]

Encouragment is wrong? Thats what I'm talking about. Focusing on being under privileged helps nothing. Telling people they are better than their perceived privilege is positive. These people are better and stronger than their lack of privilege.

Again, you're responding to points I'm not making. Of course everyone should be encouraged that they can fulfill their own potential. I'm saying white privilege isn't systemic because they are told otherwise. And the notion of white privilege doesn't mean that anyway. It's about recognizing the wide varieties of societal factors, some intentional others not, that put POC in a disadvantaged position from birth. We can't strive to end these disadvantages if we don't recognize their existence in the first place.

 

[JazzyFresh]

And the notion of white privilege doesn't mean that anyway. It's about recognizing the wide varieties of societal factors, some intentional others not, that put POC in a disadvantaged position from birth. We can't strive to end these disadvantages if we don't recognize their existence in the first place.

I recognize it, never said otherwise but as
I've said from the very beginning recognition chances absolutely nothing. Me, you, JazzGal all recognize it's existence but that doesn't change a single thing. We're(I'm) still privileged and POC are still systematically oppressed. My being privileged changes nothing.

 

[Zombie]

I recognize it, never said otherwise but as
I've said from the very beginning recognition chances absolutely nothing. Me, you, JazzGal all recognize it's existence but that doesn't change a single thing. We're(I'm) still privileged and POC are still systematically oppressed. My being privileged changes nothing.

Well, if you don't do anything about it sure. If on the other hand you consider your own biases and try to correct them you may just become a better person.

You could also support policies which aim to correct societies ills that contribute to white privilege.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Well, if you don't do anything about it sure. If on the other hand you consider your own biases and try to correct them you may just become a better person.

You could also support policies which aim to correct societies ills that contribute to white privilege.

Things like high employment rate for minorities? What about prison reform?
Illegal immigration is known to hurt legal minorities by pushing down wages. Abortion kills how many black people a day keeping minority status dropping even further. Welfare systems that keep people from working and making a life of their own. What about the complete lack of talking about inner city gun violence while elected officials on both sides thrive off that systematic ********? Homelessness in California and Hawaii?

Hell yeah I'm privileged. I do not support systems and policies that keep these poor people poor and under privileged. I know you all will disagree and scoff at this post but thats my honest beliefs. is there more I can do and change? Of course.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

There are not enough women or POC in Congress to pass anything on their own. It still is a white man's game.

The definition of white privilege shouldn't be vague and obtuse if people actually learn a little history and interact with POC. "Inherent advantages possessed by a white person on the basis of their race in a society characterized by racial inequality and injustice" is not really a difficult concept.

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Okay, but I would argue then that class is far more deterministic than race. To be more specific, here are a few predictors of success that will index much higher than a generic factor like the color of one's skin. (Again, this assumes that people have a fairly common definition of what 'success' means.)

1) Parents are multi-millionaires. As 90% of wealth is inherited (or at least it was in the 90s when I studied sociology), it's a tremendous advantage to have wealth in the family. Wealth truly can open doors and connect a person with other wealthy peers, thereby creating compounding opportunities.

2) Attend an expensive private school for grades 8-12 in New York, New England or the San Francisco peninsula. There exists a class system in the U.S., and expensive private schools and boarding schools are designed, in part, to divide the wealthy families of name and means from the rest of us.

3) Attend an Ivy League college or elite school in California, like Stanford, Caltech or Harvey Mudd.

Any person who achieves the above probably, whether they're white or any other color, has at least a 50% chance of becoming very well off. And if not, they can inherit money from their family and figure out what to do with it later.

Now let me give you a counter example...
** Lets say there is a person of 'color'--maybe black, maybe hispanic, maybe Korean.
** Lets say this person comes from a single-parent family of working-class income.
** Lets say that this person has an average-level IQ. S/he's able to work, but is not a high achiever in school.
** Lets say that this person lives in a mid-size city with some economic opportunity, but not a ton of upward mobility.
** This person gets offered jobs at places like UPS, restaurants, as an office assistant, etc.

What is it that you would like to do, or see done, to help this person achieve more?

 

[One Brow]

Have you read “White Rage” or “Just Mercy?” These books changed my perspectives drastically. If you ache, what did you think of them? The podcast, “The Daily” had a fantastic episode on school busing that was incredibly insightful.

I have not read them. I picked up a lot where I was raised, and have read various columns/blogs over the years to help me put it into words.