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Someone explain the timeline and X-Men film franchise to me

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So over the years I’m quite certain I’ve seen all the films. Maybe there’s one I haven’t seen. My impression was that the ones with the new actors were prequels. I just saw Dark Phoenix on a plane and am a little confused by how these newer ones actually fit it. First, Nightcrawler’s presence is curious as didn’t they find him in the original film? Anyway, and more importantly, both Mistique and Jean Gray dying/becoming the Phoenix before the original movie is to take place? Also, what’s with Dark Phoenix and Captain Marvel being nearly the identical premise?
 
Basically in "Day's of Future Past" Logan is sent back to his past self by kitty pryde and what he does in that movie resets the timeline so the older movies, set in the future, never actually happened. They retcon a few things along the way. It's a little more complicated than that. But that's the basics.
 
It's impossible because they have jacked with the timeline too much. It's now just a few movies that are loosely attached to the same universe really.
 
They made a few, they were a hit at the box office, they made many more, they also brought in a ton of money, so they made a whole **** ton more of them and people continued to eat them up. The end.
 
X-Men: Great
X-Men 2: Amazing
X-Men 3: Absolute crap
Wolverine: Origins: Horrific
X-Men First Class: Really good
The Wolverine: Meh
X-Men Days of Future Past: Wow.
Deadpool: Pretty damn funny
X-Men Apocalypse: My eyes are bleeding
Logan: Why did this win no Oscars? Amazing, terrific, fantastic.
Deadpool 2: Like Deadpool 1, only with more ****
X-Men Dark Phoenix: I couldn't even be bothered watching it.
 
X-Men: Great
X-Men 2: Amazing
X-Men 3: Absolute crap
Wolverine: Origins: Horrific
X-Men First Class: Really good
The Wolverine: Meh
X-Men Days of Future Past: Wow.
Deadpool: Pretty damn funny
X-Men Apocalypse: My eyes are bleeding
Logan: Why did this win no Oscars? Amazing, terrific, fantastic.
Deadpool 2: Like Deadpool 1, only with more ****
X-Men Dark Phoenix: I couldn't even be bothered watching it.
I just watched dark Pheonix and I hated it. The bad guys were really lame.

The best one has to be logan

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X-Men: Great
X-Men 2: Amazing
X-Men 3: Absolute crap
Wolverine: Origins: Horrific
X-Men First Class: Really good
The Wolverine: Meh
X-Men Days of Future Past: Wow.
Deadpool: Pretty damn funny
X-Men Apocalypse: My eyes are bleeding
Logan: Why did this win no Oscars? Amazing, terrific, fantastic.
Deadpool 2: Like Deadpool 1, only with more ****
X-Men Dark Phoenix: I couldn't even be bothered watching it.

This is a great post. Well done sir
 
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X-Men: Great
X-Men 2: Amazing
X-Men 3: Absolute crap
Wolverine: Origins: Horrific
X-Men First Class: Really good
The Wolverine: Meh
X-Men Days of Future Past: Wow.
Deadpool: Pretty damn funny
X-Men Apocalypse: My eyes are bleeding
Logan: Why did this win no Oscars? Amazing, terrific, fantastic.
Deadpool 2: Like Deadpool 1, only with more ****
X-Men Dark Phoenix: I couldn't even be bothered watching it.
Do any of the movies with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver count as X men movies?
 
Quicksilver was in Days of Future Past (and had a little sister who I suppose would be the Scarlet Witch).
Here's the Wikipedia explanation:

Marvel licensed the filming rights of the X-Men and related concepts, such as mutants, to 20th Century Fox. Fox created a film series based on the franchise. Years later, Marvel started their own film franchise, the Marvel Cinematic Universe, focused on characters that they had not licensed to other studios, such as the Avengers. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were part of a dispute between the two studios. Fox would claim the rights over them because they were both mutants and children of Magneto, the villain of most of their films, while Marvel would also claim those rights because the editorial history of the characters in comic books is more associated with the Avengers rather than the X-Men. The studios came to an agreement allowing both to use the characters, with the condition that they cannot make reference to the other studio's properties. The Fox films cannot mention them as members of the Avengers, while the Marvel films cannot mention them as mutants or children of Magneto.[102]

  • Quicksilver appears in the films X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014), X-Men: Apocalypse (2016) and Dark Phoenix (2019), played by Evan Peters.[103][104][105][106] In Days of Future Past, Quicksilver is an American teenager, thus his name is Americanized to be Peter Maximoff rather than Pietro. Revealed to be an acquaintance of Wolverine's in the future, he is enlisted by Wolverine, Xavier, and Beast to break Magneto out of prison. Director Bryan Singer shot all of Quicksilver's scenes in 3,600 frames per second.[107][108] Returning in Apocalypse, Quicksilver takes on a much larger narrative role,[109] rescuing almost the entire student body of the Xavier School single-handedly from an explosion caused when Havok accidentally destroys the X-Jet with a blast aimed at Apocalypse. He goes on to participate in the final battle with Apocalypse (Oscar Isaac) before joining the newly reformed X-Men. In Apocalypse, Quicksilver has learned that Magneto is his father, but chooses not to tell him. He also makes a brief cameo appearance in Deadpool 2 (2018), along with other team members from Apocalypse.[110]
  • Aaron Taylor-Johnson signed on to play Quicksilver in the 2015 film Avengers: Age of Ultron,[111][112] and first appeared as the character in a mid-credits scene of the 2014 film Captain America: The Winter Soldier.[113] In Age of Ultron, Pietro Maximoff and his sister Wanda (Elizabeth Olsen) are volunteers of Hydra, both acquiring superhuman powers after volunteering to be experimented upon.[114] Harboring a lifelong hatred for American arms manufacturer Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.), whose bombs killed their parents, they side with Ultron (James Spader) against the Avengers, before later switching sides. In the final conflict with Ultron, Quicksilver dies a hero's death saving the lives of Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner) and a small child. Despite Taylor-Johnson signing a multi-picture deal,[115] producer Kevin Feige has stated that there are no plans for Quicksilver to appear in future Marvel Studios films.[116]
Interestingly, because of the whole Fox movies X-men thing, the Marvel movies proper have never been able to mention mutants at all, not even the existence of mutants. That will presumably change now.
 
They made a few, they were a hit at the box office, they made many more, they also brought in a ton of money, so they made a whole **** ton more of them and people continued to eat them up. The end.

Woah woah woah bruh. They made two hits, and a complete and utter disaster that is "The last stand". Eventually, Fox pumped more money into it with First Class, and it was tolerable thanks to some superior acting from McLevoy and Fassbender. Probably a few points for Kevin Bacon. At that point they just laughed from their ivory tower as they watched the accountants bring them money.

That's the point it went off the rails. I blame Fox as a whole.
 
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