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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

For all her faults, you can't say she didn't know exactly what a Trump presidency would look like.

 
JazzyFresh said:
Explain... The guy called Trump supporters traitors, I called him a bigot. You and him started crying. It's you crying and it's yoy feeling victimized you projecting little child.
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It goes something like this

A: Dante Exum is injury prone

B: you are a bigot

A: But, objectively, he is injured all the time

B: those facts don’t matter. I don’t agree with your opinion so you are intolerant to my ideas. Ergo, in my great and unmatched wisdom, you are a bigot. it is in the dictionary.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Pretty stupid actually. That guy over there working a 9-5, coming home to his family, paying his taxes, following laws, and hurting nobody is a traitor. It's flat out ignorance and bigotry in every single facet.
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It is good to know that people who pay taxes can’t be traitors.

If I call this idea incomprehensibly ignorant would that make me a bigot?
 
Who panders to China and stays silent on pro democracy movements in China?

Little Donnie
Pop
Kerr

one of these people have a job involving global relations. The other two Get y’all dudes to put inflated bouncy globes into slightly larger steel hoops.

one criticized the other two for doing what he does.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Pretty stupid actually. That guy over there working a 9-5, coming home to his family, paying his taxes, following laws, and hurting nobody is a traitor. It's flat out ignorance and bigotry in every single facet.
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I'll readily acknowledge I have friends who are Trump supporters and good human beings all at the same time. That said, those friends will have to take responsibility for the poor choice they make in supporting Trump. And I'll be there to help them come to terms with that poor choice if they need me.

Otherwise, my sense of history can only agree with @silesian, we are indeed living in the "WTF Era of American history". I had to laugh at that, and I sure could use a good laugh in this era....
 
Red said:
I'll readily acknowledge I have friends who are Trump supporters and good human beings all at the same time. That said, those friends will have to take responsibility for the poor choice they make in supporting Trump. And I'll be there to help them come to terms with that poor choice if they need me.

Otherwise, my sense of history can only agree with @silesian, we are indeed living in the "WTF Era of American history". I had to laugh at that, and I sure could use a good laugh in this era....
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Lol, good friend you are calling your friends traitors. Thankfully with my friends we can have a difference of opinion without judgement. We are adults though that respect each other Hell even with you guys outside of this thread I don't view you in a negative light. Too much hate.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Lol, good friend you are calling your friends traitors.
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No, they're not. I call them misguided, and I will be there for them when they come to their senses. It's supporters like you that I would consider a traitor. Not all Trump supporters are traitors to my country. Those who said to me, in some of these Trump threads over the past few years, in so many words, "who gives a **** if Russia interfered in our election?", those fall into the category of traitors. I said so at the time, and I have not changed my tune.
 
Red said:
No, they're not. I call them misguided, and I will be there for them when they come to their senses. It's supporters like you that I would consider a traitor. Not all Trump supporters are traitors to my country. Those who said to me, in some of these Trump threads over the past few years, in so many words, "who gives a **** if Russia interfered in our election?", those fall into the category of traitors. I said so at the time, and I have not changed my tune.
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Well you obviously don't. I'm all for figuring out why Obama allowed Russia to interfere with our elections. Your quick to blame Trump for something that has been happening long before Trump. So spare me. You really don't care that Russia meddled UNDER OUR LAST ADMINISTRATION.
 
Red said:
No, they're not..
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So you also agree it's an outlandish comment? My Trump friends aren't traitors, I'm just glad I have the audacity to stick up against such a stupid claim. My Democrats friends, even my alt left one or two aren't traitors either.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I mean what part of "I agree with silesian" is hard to understand?
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I do largely agree, but I just don't put 100% of Trump supporters in the category of traitors. Some no doubt are, some are in need of some serious education. And many simply don't understand how they have allowed a cynical demagogue to manipulate their fears, anger, and frustrations at the social and cultural war changes taking place in American society. I stated back in July of 2016 who Trump was, a demagogue, what the techniques of demagogues are, and how he would utilize the instincts of a demagogue to fool a large segment of the population. And I was 100% correct, because that is exactly what happened.

I thought the most succinct portion of @silesian's comment was we are living in the WTF era of American society. Got a good laugh out of that, in the sense that gallows humor can be funny at times and serve as a comic release valve.
 
JazzyFresh said:
So you also agree it's an outlandish comment? My Trump friends aren't traitors, I'm just glad I have the audacity to stick up against such a stupid claim. My Democrats friends, even my alt left one or two aren't traitors either.
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OK, that's fair enough. By far, where your friends, and mine, are concerned. But his statement is not as outlandish as you would have it, IMO. Trump IS a security threat, and I just like @silesian's description that we are living in the "WTF era of American history". I found that a comical way of stating a certain truth.
 
Red said:
I do largely agree, but I just don't put 100% of Trump supporters in the category of traitors. Some no doubt are, some are in need of some serious education. And many simply don't understand how they have allowed a cynical demagogue to manipulate their fears, anger, and frustrations at the social and cultural war changes taking place in American society. I stated back in July of 2016 who Trump was, a demagogue, what the techniques of demagogues are, and how he would utilize the instincts of a demagogue to fool a large segment of the population. And I was 100% correct, because that is exactly what happened.

I thought the most succinct portion of @silesian's comment was we are living in the WTF era of American society. Got a good laugh out of that, in the sense that gallows humor can be funny at times and serve as a comic release valve.
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You called me a traitor and you know nothing about me. Nothing. You are nothing more that Trump in a different disguise in my eyes. I don't think you're a traitor. Like me I bet you love this country we just have different ideas to get there. Calling someone a traitor over that is 100% false and idiotic.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Well you obviously don't. I'm all for figuring out why Obama allowed Russia to interfere with our elections. Your quick to blame Trump for something that has been happening long before Trump.
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One of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations. If Obama had publicly, unilaterally discussed how Russia was influencing the election, you would have been all over him for acting in a partisan fashion. Why don't you ask why McConnell wouldn't agree to support Obama in condemning Russia, or blame Trump for welcoming Russian influence?
 
Red said:
OK, that's fair enough. By far, where your friends, and mine, are concerned. But his statement is not as outlandish as you would have it, IMO. Trump IS a security threat, and I just like @silesian's description that we are living in the "WTF era of American history". I found that a comical way of stating a certain truth.
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We'll be fine, I 100% promise. People said the same about Obama and his Radical Muslim ********. It was outlandish then it's equally fear mongering outlandish now.
 
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