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Trade Joe Ingles and Dante Exum for.....

Almost every team has an Achilles heal. Teams adapt to exploit weaknesses. The Jazz have an obvious one and it will be exploited. The offense and Gobert and the focus will help but on some nights it may not be enough.
 
whatthe said:
My assumptions are

1. Orlando will dump talent to save money like they have done in past.
2. Jazz will be worse defensively because the team is smaller.
3. The second unit can survive trade.

Come the trade deadline I think this will be talked about especially if Exum is still unhappy.
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On your third point, is it also the assumption that Mudiay in fact comes out of this as our dude that runs the second unit efficiently?
 
whatthe said:
Almost every team has an Achilles heal. Teams adapt to exploit weaknesses. The Jazz have an obvious one and it will be exploited. The offense and Gobert and the focus will help but on some nights it may not be enough.
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If your achilles is fine do you still have an Achilles heal?
 
I wouldn't do the trade either, because if we do this, we are basically almost saying, we are 'sure' that Gordon is that missing piece.

So the question is, is he truly that dude?

EDIT: I should probably expand a little more. This trade goes through, question marks on Mudiay, Davis as to how they will play in the second unit. So then you have Jeff Green and Royce. There also might be a question mark on Green, so essentially, your depth is Royce O'Neale. Is Gordon that much of a game changer to completely shatter our depth? You do this for players like LeBron, Kawhi, Giannis, Kevin Durant.
 
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I think we have a Favors/Gobert type problem when pairing Conley with Mitchell. They just don't mesh. Both need the ball in their hands to be the players they are. And both are weak defenders, especially when one or the other has to defend a much bigger SG.

Jazz would have been much better served finding a big SG to pair with Mitchell. Quin needs to minimize the time both play on the court together. If Royce is a 3&D guard, he needs to get mins opposite either.

Lindzanity replaced 3 starters with much worse defenders than their predecessors. And we're seeing the folly of that decision. Jazz are going to struggle this year. They aren't contenders. And won't be until Donovan gets moved to PG and we get a stud 3&D SG...if that ever happens.
 
No. But one year under Quinn and the development staff I think he becomes that guy. His shooting is streaky but it is good enough to stretch the floor. He hunts shots so that aspect could ruin the offense. I am assuming he defers to Mitchell, Bojan, and Conley and he becomes a 4th option.....so yeah his ego may get in the way.. which is true for most players.
 
whatthe said:
No. But one year under Quinn and the development staff I think he becomes that guy. His shooting is streaky but it is good enough to stretch the floor. He hunts shots so that aspect could ruin the offense. I am assuming he defers to Mitchell, Bojan, and Conley and he becomes a 4th option.....so yeah his ego may get in the way.. which is true for most players.
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You don't bring Gordon here, to be that dude, and be the 4th option.
 
Dali said:
I wouldn't do the trade either, because if we do this, we are basically almost saying, we are 'sure' that Gordon is that missing piece.

So the question is, is he truly that dude?

EDIT: I should probably expand a little more. This trade goes through, question marks on Mudiay, Davis as to how they will play in the second unit. So then you have Jeff Green and Royce. There also might be a question mark on Green, so essentially, your depth is Royce O'Neale. Is Gordon that much of a game changer to completely shatter our depth? You do this for players like LeBron, Kawhi, Giannis, Kevin Durant.
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Wouldn't we have the same depth?
Exum doesnt play.
We lose Joe and gain Gordon. Seems like the same roster just with Gordon instead of joe.

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Dali said:
You don't bring Gordon here, to be that dude, and be the 4th option.
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Mitchell is that dude. Gordon is simply better than Joe and what is needed against the big wings of the West.

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fishonjazz said:
Mitchell is that dude. Gordon is simply better than Joe and what is needed against the big wings of the West.

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Agreed, Mitchell is that dude. But if Gordon is our guy, he needs to be 2nd option, some nights first option if he's hotter than Mitchell. We also lose a lot of playmaking with Joe leaving. A lot.
 
fishonjazz said:
Mitchell is that dude. Gordon is simply better than Joe and what is needed against the big wings of the West.

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It wouldn't be the same roster Fish. Derrick, Exum(Admittedly he doesn't play), Joe, Crowder, we lost Kyle who scares the living daylights out of defenses, Raul, best 3rd string point guard. I think there are too many questions on the depth players we currently have. I only believe in Royce, if Joe leaves.
 
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