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If your Collins, Gardner, or Ernst, don’t you get on the phone tomorrow and get your moving truck ready? Especially if you know already that there’s no way you’re going to vote to convict?

if even Kentucky is going blue, that sends a pretty damn strong message that few republican senators are safe. They should maybe rethink their Donald Trump fetish.
 
Most republican senators hate trump and are evaluating his political capital to assess whether or not they will stand up to him.

that is why the Kentucky governors election was so important. With trumps political capital plummeting, expect opposition to milk toast prez to bump up as momentum shifts.

“winning”
 
silesian said:
And your company saves >40,000 per year, so increase their taxes by that amount and they are cost neutral.
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Some of the greatest beneficiaries of single payer systems are small and large business owners. No longer are they responsible for proving health insurance through ever increasing insurance costs.

For far too long we’ve been held ransom by big health insurance industry.

Again, there’s a reason why we’re the only industrialized country that has such a backwards system.
 
The Thriller said:


If your Collins, Gardner, or Ernst, don’t you get on the phone tomorrow and get your moving truck ready? Especially if you know already that there’s no way you’re going to vote to convict?

if even Kentucky is going blue, that sends a pretty damn strong message that few republican senators are safe. They should maybe rethink their Donald Trump fetish.
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It's worth noting that Bevin was an incredibly unpopular Governor, and while this is a good win in a race Trump tried to nationalize and make about him, I'm hesitant to read too much into it with regard to other races.
 
Zombie said:
It's worth noting that Bevin was an incredibly unpopular Governor, and while this is a good win in a race Trump tried to nationalize and make about him, I'm hesitant to read too much into it with regard to other races.
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There’s always some nuance here.

it should be noted that mcconnell has consistently been polled as one of the most unpopular senators in the nation. If he’s rattled over re-election? Things could change quickly in the senate.
 
The Thriller said:
Some of the greatest beneficiaries of single payer systems are small and large business owners. No longer are they responsible for proving health insurance through ever increasing insurance costs.

For far too long we’ve been held ransom by big health insurance industry.

Again, there’s a reason why we’re the only industrialized country that has such a backwards system.
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Yeah I’m not a Medicare for all guy but you can’t ignore these benefits. It actually would improve job mobility since people stick to **** jobs to keep their health care. Think of all the waste in corporate America to administer health care programs. All gone.
 
The Thriller said:
There’s always some nuance here.

it should be noted that mcconnell has consistently been polled as one of the most unpopular senators in the nation. If he’s rattled over re-election? Things could change quickly in the senate.
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McConnell in particular should be worried I agree, he is also not popular in his home state.

One thing I think we can read into a little bit - between this and the Virginia legislature flipping, Democrats are more energized than Republicans. Impeachment is not getting R's fired up to vote.
 
For serious posters here, there are 3 main models of health care systems out there for industrialized countries:

1. Beveridge system: UK
This is a true socialized medicine model. Think of doctors, hospitals, etc as firefighters and teachers. The state is owns the hospitals and employees are government paid employees.

2. Bismarck System: Germany
Doctors, hospitals, etc remain privatized. Think of our system with insurance companies, but they’re forced to be nonprofit.

3. Medicare System: Canada
Hospitals, doctors, etc remain privatized. However, they all must primarily accept the state owned and funded Medicare plan. Medicare is funded by taxes/premiums paid by all citizens.

you can read more about their advantages and disadvantages here:
https://www.pnhp.org/single_payer_resources/health_care_systems_four_basic_models.php

these 3 models are used as models for countries like Japan, South Korea, Switzerland, France, etc.

we use all 3 in America and it wrecks havoc in our overall costs and quality.

for those of you interested in reading a great book on these models:
Amazon product ASIN 0143118218
For those who think their insurance is fine and that we don’t need to do anything but continue with the status quo:
Amazon product ASIN 1594206759
if you want to stop sounding dumb and finally be well informed and educated, you have some homework reading.
 
Zombie said:
It's worth noting that Bevin was an incredibly unpopular Governor, and while this is a good win in a race Trump tried to nationalize and make about him, I'm hesitant to read too much into it with regard to other races.
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Interesting.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
So if some sicko makes a demented video about the upcoming Democratic Nominee you would encourage everyone to watch it and rail against the nominee because of a video that he/she/they was not involved in?
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If you read my original comment, it expressed regret at the low esteem in which our independent press is now held, since I believe a press that is free to adopt an adversarial position toward our political leadership is what has always made our free press the "watchdog" of democracy. And, in that video that you are referring to, the figure representing Trump is acting violent toward several members of the media, among other segments of society. My focus was on him shown doing violence to members of our free press, be in print, or broadcast journalism.

I don't believe Trump created the video, which I believe is what you were asking me. If, however, I consider that the president, on many, many occasions has referred to the free press I am myself referring to above, as "the enemy of the people", then, yes, certainly he has contributed, among his followers, his supporters, and his cult, to the anger and hatred of the press that most certainly comes through in that video. Just as he bears some responsibility for the words he has used to demonize many immigrants.

The president's words count. I take him seriously. When he tells American citizens who are not white to "go back to the country they came from", and when he labels our free press "the enemy of the people", then, yes, he bears some responsibility for the attitude his followers embrace on those two subjects.

He did not produce the video in question. Would it have been produced absent the attitudes expressed by Trump over the past 3 years? No, likely not. I don't see how it would have been produced without the maker taking his/her cue from the attitude and words of the president himself. Even were Trump to condemn the video( and did he, I forget?), he would still be responsible for his contribution to the demonization of the watchdog of our democracy, a free press, a press free to disagree and criticize the president without being labeled "the enemy of the people".

Anyway, that's where I was coming from, regardless of your opinion of me.
 
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