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Catchall said:
With Exum, Mudiay and Ingles on the floor together, you've got three guys who can create with the ball, and two of them can get to the rim. Whereas, Jeff Green floating around the perimeter can't do much.
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He spaces the floor.

What function does Mudiay serve when he doesn't have the ball? Or Exum? The answer is taking the ball out of Ingles' hands.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Exum is a case for a psychological study on fandom. He benefits from actually not playing, growing in legend as though he is actually good at basketball while also getting the benefit of pity and fallacy that he has all this untapped upside.
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Keep the faith dude lol
 
NUMBERICA said:
He's 39% on threes and he's generally a good defender.

The book on Green has always been that if you're relying on him too much, you're going to resent it. He plays games and you have to guard him.

In case I wasn't clear, Exum is not good at basketball and he will never shoot 39% from 3 in his career even if wide-open (which he usually is... for a reason).
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There is plenty that I can agree with you in this post. What I can't agree with is Jeff and defending in the same sentence.

Also, in case that I wasn't clear, Jeff Green had no business calling himself an NBA player in this game. It would not have hurt us any more than what Jeff did today, if we threw Exum in to see what the situation is.

1 rebound, the dude is 6'9. Where is his fire? His motivation, his drive? His pride?
 
The real end of our bench has got to be really bad with Niang, Oni, NWG and Kidd for them not to get time. I would bet you could waive three of them, bring up three Stars players and not be worse off.
 
Dali said:
There is plenty that I can agree with you in this post. What I can't agree with is Jeff and defending in the same sentence.

Also, in case that I wasn't clear, Jeff Green had no business calling himself an NBA player in this game. It would not have hurt us any more than what Jeff did today, if we threw Exum in to see what the situation is.

1 rebound, the dude is 6'9. Where is his fire? His motivation, his drive? His pride?
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That's Jeff. But like any player, you get better results and effort on some games more than others. In hindsight, we can say maybe Exum would've been better, but that doesn't mean anything. Additionally, Exum has played worse basketball before. Tonight is one data-point in 82.

One last thing, Jeff is actually positive defensively for the season. He's been negative on offense.
 
homeytennis said:
The real end of our bench has got to be really bad with Niang, Oni, NWG and Kidd for them not to get time. I would bet you could waive three of them, bring up three Stars players and not be worse off.
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Coaches use 9 or 10 man rotations. The end of bench guys never play for any team except for garbage time or injuries.
 
Catchall said:
Exum can make 35% of his 3s, plus he can put the ball down and get to the rim, or make a convincing pass for an assist.
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Exum has never shot 35% from 3 for a season. His career high is 31% from his rookie season, but it's actually been quite stable around his career 30%. That 4-5% is the difference in even bothering to close-out at all after playing off of him and flat-out daring him to shoot. Which is to say that it makes the Jazz a 4-on-5 team frequently.

Exum is good at lobs, and we haven't seen him play with spacing. Cool. That doesn't make his case better than anyone else's on the team.

That said, of course I'm pulling for him. Really, truly. I would love nothing more than to be wrong at some point after 6 years of whatever he's been doing.
 
Dali said:
There is plenty that I can agree with you in this post. What I can't agree with is Jeff and defending in the same sentence.

Also, in case that I wasn't clear, Jeff Green had no business calling himself an NBA player in this game. It would not have hurt us any more than what Jeff did today, if we threw Exum in to see what the situation is.

1 rebound, the dude is 6'9. Where is his fire? His motivation, his drive? His pride?
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The only rebounds he gets are the ones that bounce right in front of him, while everyone else has gone the other way just assuming it's his rebound. Then he realizes that it actually is his rebound and so he casually reaches out to grab it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That's Jeff. But like any player, you get better results and effort on some games more than others. In hindsight, we can say maybe Exum would've been better, but that doesn't mean anything. Additionally, Exum has played worse basketball before. Tonight is one data-point in 82.

One last thing, Jeff is actually positive defensively for the season. He's been negative on offense.
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Your response to this is, that's Jeff? Unlike yourself, I will not accept a game like this from a 33 year old, still athletic, 6'9 dude, who looks like he doesn't completely give a damn half the time.

I'm not lowering my standards just because 'that's Jeff.'
 
Dali said:
Your response to this is, that's Jeff? Unlike yourself, I will not accept a game like this from a 33 year old, still athletic, 6'9 dude, who looks like he doesn't completely give a damn half the time.

I'm not lowering my standards just because 'that's Jeff.'
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K.
 
Exum has made 150 career 3s, Donovan made 187 in his rookie season.

All I'm asking regarding the Exum conversation is that it be rooted in reality and away from fantasy.
 
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