Line-ups/Rotations You'd Like to See

[checkbookdoc]

Jazz aren't clicking yet. Some of this is because the team is working on chemistry as well as understanding the system (the Davis injury has created a huge hole as well). But I think some of it has to do with rotations and line-ups. In other words, I don't think our ingredients are trash, but we need to change the recipe.

I would like to experiment for a few games with the line-up of Rudy, Royce, Bojan, Ingles, & Mitchell. That would include 4 guys who know the offensive system from last year, plus Bojan who I think has integrated really well. I could see this unit being especially fun in transition. Defensively it could be really interesting as well with a lot of versatility and above average guard/wing rebounders.

To get this lineup, you would need to switch up the rotation of Conley and Mitchell so that the primary second unit is Conley, Green, Ingles, Mudiay, and Davis (eventually). The offense could then be tinkered to focus on Conley/Green Pick-n-Pop, Mudiay drives (with Davis offensive putbacks), and Ingles/Green PnR. I think this type of offense would maximize these player's strengths.

What do you think of this rotation? Is there another lineup you would like to see?

 

[infection]

I want to see Ingles in the starting lineup and I want to see that lineup playing at least 18 minutes together. I don’t have the numbers but it feels like we get 3-4 minutes of that lineup, if that.

 

[checkbookdoc]

I want to see Ingles in the starting lineup and I want to see that lineup playing at least 18 minutes together. I don’t have the numbers but it feels like we get 3-4 minutes of that lineup, if that.

Right now that is our second most used lineup, and still only averages ~5 1/2 minutes a game.

 

[infection]

Right now that is our second most used lineup, and still only averages ~5 1/2 minutes a game.

If they started, you can easily chalk up 12 minutes per game just from the first and third quarters, then the final 3ish minutes.

 

[checkbookdoc]

If they started, you can easily chalk up 12 minutes per game just from the first and third quarters, then the final 3ish minutes.

Our starting unit is averaging ~13 1/2 minutes a game, without Royce finishing, so you are pretty much exactly on point. Should be noted, the lineup you want has been really good (net rating of 11.7), but the starters have been even better (net rating of 14.3).

 

[checkbookdoc]

I want to see Ingles in the starting lineup and I want to see that lineup playing at least 18 minutes together. I don’t have the numbers but it feels like we get 3-4 minutes of that lineup, if that.

I am assuming you want to switch Ingles for Royce. I think that is better for Joe, but not sure it would be a good thing for the team. I think Royce can only make a positive impact playing off of creators, where as Joe has some ability to create for others. If you put Royce with the second string, you take a play maker away from them, and also reduce the contribution of Royce.

 

[NAOS]

Brantley as smallball 5. Gotta see it.

Conley
Mitchell
Joe
Bojan
Brantley

 

[fishonjazz]

Jazz aren't clicking yet. Some of this is because the team is working on chemistry as well as understanding the system (the Davis injury has created a huge hole as well). But I think some of it has to do with rotations and line-ups. In other words, I don't think our ingredients are trash, but we need to change the recipe.

I would like to experiment for a few games with the line-up of Rudy, Royce, Bojan, Ingles, & Mitchell. That would include 4 guys who know the offensive system from last year, plus Bojan who I think has integrated really well. I could see this unit being especially fun in transition. Defensively it could be really interesting as well with a lot of versatility and above average guard/wing rebounders.

To get this lineup, you would need to switch up the rotation of Conley and Mitchell so that the primary second unit is Conley, Green, Ingles, Mudiay, and Davis (eventually). The offense could then be tinkered to focus on Conley/Green Pick-n-Pop, Mudiay drives (with Davis offensive putbacks), and Ingles/Green PnR. I think this type of offense would maximize these player's strengths.

What do you think of this rotation? Is there another lineup you would like to see?

I would love to see that. Zero chance it happens though

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[NAOS]

I would love to see that. Zero chance it happens though

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I’d put the odds of this minor adjustment at waaaay higher than zero.

 

[fishonjazz]

I’d put the odds of this minor adjustment at waaaay higher than zero.

Bringing Conley off the bench?
I say it's an extremely small chance.

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[checkbookdoc]

Bringing Conley off the bench?
I say it's an extremely small chance.

The change isn't to bring Conley off the bench, but for him to sub-out when Joe comes in the game (which is what Mitchell does now).

 

[fishonjazz]

The change isn't to bring Conley off the bench, but for him to sub-out when Joe comes in the game (which is what Mitchell does now).

Ah, I see.
I saw this sentence at the beginning of your OP<I would like to experiment for a few games with the line-up of Rudy, Royce, Bojan, Ingles, & Mitchell> and saw that it was the same lineup as the starting lineup except with Ingles instead of Conley and figured you wanted to see a large amount of that lineup.
The way to get a large amount out of that lineup would be to start the first and third quarters with that lineup and finish the 4th with it.

I'm certain we will see that lineup for limited minutes some games (I figure we probably already see a little bit) so I agree with naos.

I just thought you wanted see a lot of that lineup like I do. Hell, I want that to be the main lineup since I think it features our best players the most.
Will never be a primary lineup though cause Conley makes 32 million and has a storied career.

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