Conley could miss multiple weeks with hamstring injury

[jom2003]

Cool, and everyone was perfectly fine with it a few months ago. The only reason you have that flexibility is because Donovan is underpaid. This is the new reality, and once he's getting $30+ mill, and Rudy is getting like $40+ mill a year, the bench is essentially not going to be very good. Mike was brought in because they had financial flexibility to do so. The last 2 years were the model you talked about in spending that money on role players, it didn't work either. Donovan or Rudy will have to MVP level to win a title. That's just how it is. To win a title you have to have a player playing at that caliber or you aren’t winning one.

Having the financial flexibility is one thing, how you spend the money is another. You don't beat Harden, Giannis,Lebron by starpowers. We beat them by the numbers. Having a good number of players on your team who can contribute in big ways is the key. But instead of going for a number of useful players who can contribute to our team on reasonable contract(say, Sabonis' contract with the Pacers for example), we exhausted a huge chunk of our assets and cap "flexibility" on overpaying for just one or two players who simply cannot produce the same value in return. That is called a waste of assets/resources and poor management. It is the exact opposite of how we hope to build our team.

Now with the lack of depth in our team, all you can hope for is to compete with the likes of Lebron, AD, Kawhi, Giannis, Harden in starpowers with Conley, DM and Rudy. That is not even a gamble. That is called suicide.

Management work is to make the best use of the resources available to build the best team possible that has the best chance in achieving the best result. Not to sit and pray for some kind of impossible miracle because of your lack of judgement and effort.

 

[homeytennis]

The GLeague Showcase is this weekend with every GLeague team in attendance. I suspect the Jazz will have someone there.

 

[infection]

Give DWill a call. One call that's all.

DL already passed on that when DWill was playing good, got waived, and we needed a PG.

 

[oneye]

Having the financial flexibility is one thing, how you spend the money is another. You don't beat Harden, Giannis,Lebron by starpowers. We beat them by the numbers. Having a good number of players on your team who can contribute in big ways is the key. But instead of going for a number of useful players who can contribute to our team on reasonable contract(say, Sabonis' contract with the Pacers for example), we exhausted a huge chunk of our assets and cap "flexibility" on overpaying for just one or two players who simply cannot produce the same value in return. That is called a waste of assets/resources and poor management. It is the exact opposite of how we hope to build our team.

Now with the lack of depth in our team, all you can hope for is to compete with the likes of Lebron, AD, Kawhi, Giannis, Harden in starpowers with Conley, DM and Rudy. That is not even a gamble. That is called suicide.

Management work is to make the best use of the resources available to build the best team possible that has the best chance in achieving the best result. Not to sit and pray for some kind of impossible miracle because of your lack of judgement and effort.

Some of you are impossible. IF RUDY AND/OR DONOVAN ARE NOT MVP LEVEL PLAYERS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE. You had exactly what you're talking about the past 2 seasons and you couldn't compete with that either. You tried with a bunch of good players in Ricky, Favs, Jae, and now went with a guy who has proven to be a very good player his whole career, had name recognition, and gave you something you needed. Just because it hasn't went smoothly doesn't mean it wasn't a good decision. THE LAST TWO SEASONS WERE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE PROFESSING HERE. IT DIDN'T WORK. Stars win you championships in this league. Yes you need a team, but how stars perform is how you're going to win a title. Donovan and Rudy are going to have to MVP level, and yes Mike is going to have to be better, especially at hitting his shots. But to act like a bunch of role players again were the better option, you tried that already, and you were all bitching because you wanted the 3rd guy. You don't get to have stars and cap space.

 

[homeytennis]

Some of you are impossible. IF RUDY AND/OR DONOVAN ARE NOT MVP LEVEL PLAYERS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE. You had exactly what you're talking about the past 2 seasons and you couldn't compete with that either. You tried with a bunch of good players in Ricky, Favs, Jae, and now went with a guy who has proven to be a very good player his whole career, had name recognition, and gave you something you needed. Just because it hasn't went smoothly doesn't mean it wasn't a good decision. THE LAST TWO SEASONS WERE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE PROFESSING HERE. IT DIDN'T WORK.

But we were sooooo close.

 

[oneye]

But we were sooooo close.

The truth of the matter is if we want a championship Donovan is going to have to be in the same breath as the top 5 players in the NBA or you have no chance. Rudy is going to have to be a top 10 player, and Mike is going to have to get back to being himself. The Jazz's gamble was not a bad one, Conley has just under-performed so far and shot poorly. If we had Jae, Ricky, and Favs back we wouldn't have Mike or Bogey. Last years team wasn't beating them either. Stars win championships, the star we traded our bench for just has under-performed and is now injured. Things were even starting to come together you could see it last night, but it will wait again for a few more weeks unfortunately.

 

[mellow]

@oneye. Then go get the third guy. Not mike conley. He was never going to put you over the top so why gut the team to get him?

And if your success model includes a beating other teams by having a superior bench unit, you better not rely on Niang and Green.

And if your entire defense is structured around superior interior defense and rim protection don't use your mid level to sign Ed Davis to be your back up center.

 

[mellow]

The Bojan wouldn't come here without conley myth will never die.

Anyone find that link yet?

 

[416Klawzz]

Dante will RISE UP, ya'll!

Then get injured in the midst

 

[jom2003]

Some of you are impossible. IF RUDY AND/OR DONOVAN ARE NOT MVP LEVEL PLAYERS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE. You had exactly what you're talking about the past 2 seasons and you couldn't compete with that either. You tried with a bunch of good players in Ricky, Favs, Jae, and now went with a guy who has proven to be a great player his whole career, had name recognition, and gave you something you needed. Just because it hasn't went smoothly doesn't mean it wasn't a good decision. THE LAST TWO SEASONS WERE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE PROFESSING HERE. IT DIDN'T WORK.

We absolutely WERE competing with Ricky, Favs and Crowder. What are you talking about? Just look at the team that we had then compared to the team that we have now, do you seriously think that we are now more competitive than the team that we were in the last two seasons?

I agree that we need to utilize our cap flexibility over this last summer to improve our chance even further, but the way we did it is not how you supposed to do it.

EITHER.

Spending big on one or two bonafide superstars that would for sure take our team to the next level.

Or spending smaller portion on a NUMBER of good players to strengthen the depth of our squad.

And we managed to do neither.

 

[jom2003]

The Bojan wouldn't come here without conley myth will never die.

Anyone find that link yet?

Even if they found it, do you really think that the players meant what they said?

 

[vegas]

We can just hope things continue to evolve like the resurgence of Jingles. I'm not holding my breath for a move.