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Jingled said:
I really hate how the NBA works sometimes. It's pretty much impossible for small market teams like the Jazz to compete with the big market teams.

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We can compete but there are huge competitive advantages glamour markets have. Clips also willing to ****ing go for it... they’ve pushed all in and will invest a ton in luxury tax going forward. This isn’t just like the Lakers falling *** backwards into guys. Clips are going for it. To get to where they are they’ve made like 2-3 moves we wouldn’t have... they were totally willing to trade good for great.
 
This is also why the “we will be active in the buyout market” was hilarious. You think finding trades with limited assets is hard... go ahead and try to sign guys that can go to LA or Miami for the same money... hell even Texas is tax free. We are at a pretty heavy competitive disadvantage.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
This is also why the “we will be active in the buyout market” was hilarious. You think finding trades with limited assets is hard... go ahead and try to sign guys that can go to LA or Miami for the same money... hell even Texas is tax free. We are at a pretty heavy competitive disadvantage.
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Though I think the big markets have an advantage, I don't think it's as big as sometimes we perceive it (not that it doesn't exist). It's similar to thinking the "cool guys" get all the girls. Part of the reason why is the belief that's perpetuated that... 'the cool guys get all the girls,' so all the other guys don't try as are or are intimidated. They end up not pursuing opportunities because they "know their place." Or are "realists" or some other lame excuse like that that tends to self-impose limits on themselves.
 
SCS said:
Reggie Jackson sucks. Every minute he plays is a minute that Lou Will, Shamet or Pat Bev doesn't.

This is a win for every top team in the west BUT the Clippers lol.
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Yeah... this one doesn't bother me really at all... I think its likely an injury insurance policy or a way to load manage Pat Bev (dudes had lots of bumps and bruises).
 
infection said:
Though I think the big markets have an advantage, I don't think it's as big as sometimes we perceive it (not that it doesn't exist). It's similar to thinking the "cool guys" get all the girls. Part of the reason why is the belief that's perpetuated that... 'the cool guys get all the girls,' so all the other guys don't try as are or are intimidated. They end up not pursuing opportunities because they "know their place." Or are "realists" or some other lame excuse like that that tends to self-impose limits on themselves.
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I agree we should try, but the advantage is pretty big. If we had a substantially bigger role that would be the advantage that nabs us someone imo.

The narrative from the start of the season was that we expected to be active on the buyout market. We should have been able to project at some point that the buyout market was gonna be bad. Its the same DLJZ get fixated on one thing (player, strategy, draft prospect) and don't deviate. There weren't a lot of players that moved for a couple seconds... not sure if teams weren't interested or teams weren't offering... hopefully we made some offers and were rebuffed, but I'm not convinced that was the case based on reading the tea leaves.

I'm hoping Udoh is their ace up the sleeve and that why they didn't address the backup center issue.
 
Unless Udoh was released outright from China he is unavailable as they resume their season on April 1 as it had been suspended because of the corona virus.
 
homeytennis said:
Unless Udoh was released outright from China he is unavailable as they resume their season on April 1 as it had been suspended because of the corona virus.
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didn't see that news... My guess is there will be some dudes that won't be tryin to head back there though, but that doesn't look great. Ekpe got pretty good money to go over from what I understand... so I doubt he wants to get a buyout.

So Joakim Noah and Bogut are the only ones left... eff it, just start playing Juwan morgan.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
didn't see that news... My guess is there will be some dudes that won't be tryin to head back there though, but that doesn't look great. Ekpe got pretty good money to go over from what I understand... so I doubt he wants to get a buyout.

So Joakim Noah and Bogut are the only ones left... eff it, just start playing Juwan morgan.
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I had misunderstood the March 1 buyout deadline. It's not that someone has to sign with a team by March 1 in order to be playoff eligible, but only that anyone on an NBA contract who wishes to be playoff-eligible with a new team must be bought out by March 1. So anyone not on an NBA roster by March 1 can still sign later and retain playoff eligibility (I'm not sure if there's a deadline after that for playoff-eligible signings). So Bogut, whose season will end after March 1, would still be eligible (hard to know if Udoh would be, though, if Homey's info is correct).

(I had hoped to be able to either sign someone by March 1 or not, and be done with this whole add-a-player discussion, but it's apparently not that simple.)
 
idiot said:
I had misunderstood the March 1 buyout deadline. It's not that someone has to sign with a team by March 1 in order to be playoff eligible, but only that anyone on an NBA contract who wishes to be playoff-eligible with a new team must be bought out by March 1. So anyone not on an NBA roster by March 1 can still sign later and retain playoff eligibility (I'm not sure if there's a deadline after that for playoff-eligible signings). So Bogut, whose season will end after March 1, would still be eligible (hard to know if Udoh would be, though, if Homey's info is correct).

(I had hoped to be able to either sign someone by March 1 or not, and be done with this whole add-a-player discussion, but it's apparently not that simple.)
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I sure hope so. Great news, if so. Of course, it could just be delaying the inevitable. We’ll see.
 
infection said:
I sure hope so. Great news, if so. Of course, it could just be delaying the inevitable. We’ll see.
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I'm pretty sure we won't do anything... I don't think they'd do anything super late in the season unless there was an injury...

I'm banking on our backup big problems being solved by Juwan Morgan (at least in part). Not sure how it happens, but if he can get 5 games or so of backup minutes I think he could win and keep the job.
 
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