Beer
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Lol, not a chance in hell he is pulling this out of his ***.
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Lol, not a chance in hell he is pulling this out of his ***.
Beer
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About a 100% chance it was someone in or very close to the Jazz org. Now is that person trustworthy or in the know?
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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All I know is hes not the most credible.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I also read this same paragraph word for word a week ago whatever that means to you.
Why would we super max Rudy? Please tell me you’re joking.
Kurt Helin's headline lol
I mean he's been a reporter for a long time. I don't think he has some motivation to put that out there for no reason. It's kinda been known for weeks this wasn't all about the virus.
Jazz4ever
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Both Tony Jones and Aldridge work for the athletic, and offer differing stories. Hmmm...
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...n-Trading-Either-Donovan-Mitchell-Rudy-Gobert
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...n-Trading-Either-Donovan-Mitchell-Rudy-Gobert
homeytennis
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Did DA get this rumor in the Best Buy parking lot? Asking for a friend.
I'm sure Tony's info is coming from someone close to the organization. Someone close to the organization is not going to say that they are going to for sure, or have to trade Rudy. In fact saying you aren't going to trade either is the smart way to try and help their trade value. Both things can be true. Tony's reporting can be 100% accurate in what his source is saying and the Jazz could also have been growing tired of Rudy's behavior this year. This was basically said by Bill on ESPN 700 a couple weeks ago when he mentioned it was much more about Rudy being a diva in the organization than it was about Donovan.
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Archie Moses
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Because its 35% of your cap space for a center that isn't very offensively gifted.
If faced with trading a top 15 player in the league for scraps or overpaying I'll overpay.
The team will be operating over the cap so his salary won't handicap the team that much.
Besides Gobert is the best defensive player in the NBA and am absolute game changer on that end of the court. On offense he is limited but he does still provide a lot. He helps a ton with spacing but sucking in lots of players on the roll. He frees up players a lot on screens and gets extra possessions. There's a reason his offensive rating is so high.
Archie Moses
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What you can get for him is certainly a factor here. He can't like these reports currently leaking and how things have went though and I think theres a real possibility he walks away for nothing next summer so its a risk consideration too.
MCarter
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Honestly, I think you can get Vucevic and Gordon for the same salary as Goberts max would be. I’d have to give that a hard thought if Rudy wanted super max.
I don't think the Jazz necessarily want to trade Rudy, but there are a few things to consider here:
1) Rudy is a FA at the end of next season and could walk like Hayward did.
2) Rudy's trade value is never going to be higher, given that he's an All Star and 2x DPOY in his prime.
3) The Jazz are willing to pay Gobert, but I doubt they want to pay him a supermax. This could make his case similar to Demarcus Cousins and Kemba Walker, both of whom were traded.
4) Look at the haul that New Orleans got for Anthony Davis last year, even after AD chilled his trade market by saying he'd only re-sign with the Lakers.
5) Mitchell and Gobert don't fit together as well as, say, Gobert and Hayward did.
6) The time window for contention that the Jazz planned for with Rudy may be getting interfered with by the coronavirus. Eh, not sure about that one.
I think it would take a pretty massive trade offer for the Jazz to move Gobert, but I don't think it's impossible. If Chicago offered Markkanen, Carter, a lottery pick this year and a future pick, the Jazz might be tempted. It would have to be a homerun deal for the Jazz.
1) Rudy is a FA at the end of next season and could walk like Hayward did.
2) Rudy's trade value is never going to be higher, given that he's an All Star and 2x DPOY in his prime.
3) The Jazz are willing to pay Gobert, but I doubt they want to pay him a supermax. This could make his case similar to Demarcus Cousins and Kemba Walker, both of whom were traded.
4) Look at the haul that New Orleans got for Anthony Davis last year, even after AD chilled his trade market by saying he'd only re-sign with the Lakers.
5) Mitchell and Gobert don't fit together as well as, say, Gobert and Hayward did.
6) The time window for contention that the Jazz planned for with Rudy may be getting interfered with by the coronavirus. Eh, not sure about that one.
I think it would take a pretty massive trade offer for the Jazz to move Gobert, but I don't think it's impossible. If Chicago offered Markkanen, Carter, a lottery pick this year and a future pick, the Jazz might be tempted. It would have to be a homerun deal for the Jazz.
416Klawzz
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Do you think you are a bit biased ?
Not really, I think that has been the case.
If the Jazz think he is leaving then you trade him but that wasn't what was being discussed. That's a different scenario.