The Last Dance

[checkbookdoc]

2, 3, and 4 have no bearing on what we are talking about. In fact, 2 is only true because he held out. Had he not, he might have been royally screwed for his career.

I think that points 1, 2, & 3 combine to show that even if he had not held out he would not have been "royally screwed for his career". But that is my opinion. Think whatever you want.

 

[Beer]

Call me overly cynical but I'm sure Jordan had at least implied if not explicit creative control over the entire project.

They never could have made the documentary without his clout and cooperation - I don't believe for a second there's anything in there that he isn't OK with.

For sure. He seems to be going out of his way to sound pleasant in his interviews. Looks fake.

 

[Jazzmix]

It's a well done documentary, I enjoy watching it. Just seen the 3rd episode and when Rodman was talking about how he was practising the rebounding I thought "Can someone please send it to all Jazz players who don't play the center?"

 

[One Brow]

The producer was just on the LeBatard and Stugotz show and said MJ didn't make them pull anything out. Which is awesome and surprising.

Until you realize that Jordan would have carefully chosen a production team that wouldn't put him in a bad light in the first place. that's pretty much what all major media presences and players do (yes, including news organizations), hire people who already support their view point.

 

[Miggs]

For sure. He seems to be going out of his way to sound pleasant in his interviews. Looks fake.

I don’t find this to be true at all. This is one of the main things that was most attractive about him and even Kobe in interviews. Both were very thoughtful and intelligent.

 

[Miggs]

Really liked last night a lot. Jordan cursing a ton in the interviews. But it all seemed 100% honest to me. My favorite parts were when he said something to the effect of “I told Horace stop ****ing whining. If they see that, they’ve won.” Or something. The whole old school mentality. How tough these guys were.

 

[candrew]

Until you realize that Jordan would have carefully chosen a production team that wouldn't put him in a bad light in the first place. that's pretty much what all major media presences and players do (yes, including news organizations), hire people who already support their view point.

I'm enjoying the documentary but it's a glorified puff piece.

I'm waiting to see how they'll handle the gambling rumors, his father's murder and his temporary "retirement" but I wouldn't expect much.

Just more stuff about how Isaiah is a douche because he wouldn't shake hands after losing to Chicago.

 

[Rubashov]

I've been enjoying it, bit ****** it hasnt been dumped on netflix so i can binge watch it cause right now i have bugger all to do and plenty of time on the couch.

 

[Miggs]

I'm enjoying the documentary but it's a glorified puff piece.

I'm waiting to see how they'll handle the gambling rumors, his father's murder and his temporary "retirement" but I wouldn't expect much.

Just more stuff about how Isaiah is a douche because he wouldn't shake hands after losing to Chicago.

I agree to an extent but what do you want them to say? Is it disingenuous?

 

[sahlensguy]

For sure. He seems to be going out of his way to sound pleasant in his interviews. Looks fake.

Out of his way based on what?

 

[sahlensguy]

I don’t find this to be true at all. This is one of the main things that was most attractive about him and even Kobe in interviews. Both were very thoughtful and intelligent.

I've given MJ a ride to and from Park City dozens of times (Kobe a few times too) and I agree with your take. Jordan was no saint though. This documentary only adds to the great admiration I have for the man.

 

[candrew]

I agree to an extent but what do you want them to say? Is it disingenuous?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist by nature but no doubt in my mind we know nothing more than the tip of the iceberg regarding him leaving basketball in 93.

If this documentary was just about his commitment to greatness as a basketball player then that would be one thing; but this documentary has been more than willing to sling a few arrows at others, most of them at a dead guy who can't defend himself - so you'd hope they would also shine the light on a subject that has been largely unexamined.