The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[Red]

Dude ffs you could have said all that in a couple of small paragraphs

Yeah, that’s what happens when you try to think out a solution to something that has no solution. I agree. My bad.

 

[silesian]

Coronavirus deaths are so funny. Ha. Ha. Ha.

 

[silesian]

unless it’s a double blind randomised study it’s worth jack ****

that’s like saying unless you are 5 star restaurant you are jack ****.

it is nonsense.

The scientific analysis can be applied to carefully designed studies.

And scientists can analyze data from a population.

both are useful.

The first is the gold standard. You need time and money to conduct such a study.

 

[silesian]

Nope. That is the only way to truly measure the worth of a treatment modality. Anything else you can interpret however you see fit.

The perfect is the enemy of the good and useful. suppose we know of 10,000 people who take treatment x for disease y. Normally 20% of the untreated patients die. None if the 10,000 die.

this would be great news and actionable. Even thought the ideal double blind study was not employed.

 

[silesian]

Nope. That is the only way to truly measure the worth of a treatment modality. Anything else you can interpret however you see fit.

Only a fool would believe that hydroxy is An effective treatment given the facts and data in this study.

 

[Douchebag K]

Only a fool would believe that hydroxy is An effective treatment given the facts and data in this study.

See my first post on it dude ffs

 

[Douchebag K]

The perfect is the enemy of the good and useful. suppose we know of 10,000 people who take treatment x for disease y. Normally 20% of the untreated patients die. None if the 10,000 die.

this would be great news and actionable. Even thought the ideal double blind study was not employed.

thnx captain obvious. And when has that scenario ever played out ???

 

[colton]

Nope. That is the only way to truly measure the worth of a treatment modality. Anything else you can interpret however you see fit.

Why is that your view? The good people at the Lancet and probably every single other scientific publication disagree with you.

 

[fishonjazz]

Nope. That is the only way to truly measure the worth of a treatment modality. Anything else you can interpret however you see fit.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

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[silesian]

thnx captain obvious. And when has that scenario ever played out ???

It is a hypothetical to make a point, but I think you know that and are just pretending to not understand that.

The point being that you can’t dismiss data that is not from a tightly controlled study.

 

[silesian]

thnx captain obvious. And when has that scenario ever played out ???

well it does seem obvious but it is inconsistent with your total dismissal of this sort of analysis.

 

[One Brow]

that’s not any kind of proper scientific study.

Epidemiological studies are proper scientific studies, but there are many things to consider. Read infection's take in the Coronavirus thread.

But the fretting about ppl taking it is pretty absurd, the side effects are predominantly long term use concerns

They were short-term enough to show up in a single hospital visit.

 

[One Brow]

The first is the gold standard. You need time and money to conduct such a study.

There's also the ethical concerns of treating people with something that could be deadly, or not treating them with something known to help them (although I see HCQ in the first camp and not the second).

 

[One Brow]

thnx captain obvious. And when has that scenario ever played out ???

The history of vaccinations, for one.

 

[silesian]

Does anyone else see the irony in dems fighting for safety precautions that would help reopen the economy faster, while trumps cultists flaunt the rules, Increasing the spread and worsening the economic impact. It is almost like the Dems are fighting to re elect trump and the repubs want him gone.

Also, Dems are fighting for more recovery money into people’s pocketbooks which would improve the economy, while republican leaders are stalling, hurting trumps reelection chances? It is almost like the Dems are fighting to re elect trump and the repubs want him gone?

 

[silesian]

I sometimes wonder if Trump is a democratic “Manchurian President,” secretly planted to destroy the Republican Party so that liberals can control the country for the next generation.

 

[silesian]

When you’ve lost Anne Coulter.....

 

[fishonjazz]

Does anyone else see the irony in dems fighting for safety precautions that would help reopen the economy faster, while trumps cultists flaunt the rules, Increasing the spread and worsening the economic impact. It is almost like the Dems are fighting to re elect trump and the repubs want him gone.

Also, Dems are fighting for more recovery money into people’s pocketbooks which would improve the economy, while republican leaders are stalling, hurting trumps reelection chances? It is almost like the Dems are fighting to re elect trump and the repubs want him gone?

Until you consider that the Dems nominated Biden to challenge him.
Who knows what the hell is going on anymore

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[The Thriller]

Does anyone else see the irony in dems fighting for safety precautions that would help reopen the economy faster, while trumps cultists flaunt the rules, Increasing the spread and worsening the economic impact. It is almost like the Dems are fighting to re elect trump and the repubs want him gone.

Also, Dems are fighting for more recovery money into people’s pocketbooks which would improve the economy, while republican leaders are stalling, hurting trumps reelection chances? It is almost like the Dems are fighting to re elect trump and the repubs want him gone?

every cult becomes a death cult. Trumpism is reaching its death cult phase. They’re wanting others to die to protect Dear Leader. True, opening up cautiously is the right thing to do and would ultimately make everyone healthier and wealthier. But that’s not the goal of the cult. The cult exists to protect Trump. Right now Dear Leader wants us to recklessly open up. This cult has been built up over decades of misinformation, unchecked conspiracy theories, and Christian fundamentalism. That’s why you’re seeing so much John Birch Society nonsense claiming that this virus is manufactured by globalists to bring about New World Order and destroy Christianity. Thanks Reagan, for bringing these nutjobs into the Republican fold.

Also, I think white privilege is a heavy influence on our attitudes towards opening up. Many affluent and white communities have barely been touched by this virus because of the effective lockdowns. The virus is seen as something that only impacts diverse and urban communities. But give it time. We’re still only in May. We’ll be hitting 200,000 deaths in the early fall and by that time many of these communities currently point up recklessly will have paid a heavy toll.

A few breakouts in wards on the east side of the valley, Bountiful, and Alpine would completely change the attitude of many Utahns. I don’t hope for this. But it’s most likely coming. Look at other countries who are dealing with this virus. And Read any book on the 1918 flu. We’re still most likely in the first half of this thing. This fall Could be brutal.