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Archie Moses said:
What does being an atheist have to do with anything? I'm agnostic. Snorkel. Albuquerque.

I'm sure there are some people who are bothered by the priest using religion as a political prop, while using Twitter to promote religion as a transformative force too.
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I'm going to try one more time.

The concept of 'prop' being used here is in reference to a stage prop. It is something outside of yourself that you use for theatrical effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatrical_property

The priest is religious. You can not use a part of yourself (your hand or your religious nature) as a prop - it goes against the definition of the word prop.

You could argue that the either the priest is not religious and also using religion as a prop (dubious) or Trump is religious (I don't buy it, but more believable) and neither were using a prop.
 
I think the context makes things worse. He gassed people. If you’re Christian, you believe that people are sons and daughters of god. Trump gassed sons and daughters of god (including a priest) so he could have a path cleared for a picture.

Did he go inside the church? Did he pray inside of it? Did he observe the damage that occurred the previous night? Did he visit with church workers?

No?

Okay...

So he hurt fellow sons and daughters of god unnecessarily so he could selfishly take a picture in front of the church in an attempt to make up for the perceived bad media coverage of previous night

everything was done to hurt others nothing was done to heal. Completely antithetical to Christianity. A cheap and hypocritical photo op.
 
I would encourage those conversing today to talk about the issue of systemic racism, a corrupt criminal justice system, and what you have learned from people of color over the last few days.

TBH, I don’t really care what any of the white people here think about the riots, protests, or race. Honestly, your opinions don’t matter right now. Whatever minutia you’re trying to argue is taking away from the voices of black and brown people.

What have your black and brown friends and family been telling you? Have you asked?


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BabyPeterzz said:
I would encourage those conversing today to talk about the issue of systemic racism, a corrupt criminal justice system, and what you have learned from people of color over the last few days.

TBH, I don’t really care what any of the white people here think about the riots, protests, or race. Honestly, your opinions don’t matter right now. Whatever minutia you’re trying to argue is taking away from the voices of black and brown people.

What have your black and brown friends and family been telling you? Have you asked?


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I'll listen to damn near anybody, but 110% behind folks reaching out to communicate with the people that these issues actually effect? (affect? I've never known)
 
Eminence said:
I'm going to try one more time.

The concept of 'prop' being used here is in reference to a stage prop. It is something outside of yourself that you use for theatrical effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatrical_property

The priest is religious. You can not use a part of yourself (your hand or your religious nature) as a prop - it goes against the definition of the word prop.

You could argue that the either the priest is not religious and also using religion as a prop (dubious) or Trump is religious (I don't buy it, but more believable) and neither were using a prop.
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One more time? I think this is your first time.
I agree with what you're saying for the most part (religions do use props too.) "Both religion and theatre often share a common understanding that truth cannot be contained solely within literal facts: we need creative images in order to catch a fleeting glimpse of reality."

My first initial thought after reading the priest's tweet was this.
Priest: religion is not a political tool.
Priest: Uses religion as a political tool.

Thanks for sharing.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
I would encourage those conversing today to talk about the issue of systemic racism, a corrupt criminal justice system, and what you have learned from people of color over the last few days.

TBH, I don’t really care what any of the white people here think about the riots, protests, or race. Honestly, your opinions don’t matter right now. Whatever minutia you’re trying to argue is taking away from the voices of black and brown people.

What have your black and brown friends and family been telling you? Have you asked?


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"Conversation accomplishes more than bricks and looting every day. I’m not going to allow them to make a narrative out of that."
 
BabyPeterzz said:
I would encourage those conversing today to talk about the issue of systemic racism, a corrupt criminal justice system, and what you have learned from people of color over the last few days.

TBH, I don’t really care what any of the white people here think about the riots, protests, or race. Honestly, your opinions don’t matter right now. Whatever minutia you’re trying to argue is taking away from the voices of black and brown people.

What have your black and brown friends and family been telling you? Have you asked?


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Pissed. Angry. Not for the looting or riots. In fact one of them and his other friends in the town in which he lives (which is where I teach and where he grew up and is also an educator) want to be sure to be vigilant in stopping anyone who tries to instigate as he will be heading up a rally there over the next week. Decent sized town. 70,000 people. He’ll 100% be for peace but he won’t mince words either. Guy is probably one of the top 3-5 brightest, sharpest people I know. Insanely quick (thinking), well-rounded in his breadth of knowledge, and just a good ****ing dude.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
I would encourage those conversing today to talk about the issue of systemic racism, a corrupt criminal justice system, and what you have learned from people of color over the last few days.

TBH, I don’t really care what any of the white people here think about the riots, protests, or race. Honestly, your opinions don’t matter right now. Whatever minutia you’re trying to argue is taking away from the voices of black and brown people.

What have your black and brown friends and family been telling you? Have you asked?


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FWIW I ran into my black neighbor after work last night when I got home. We met at the fence, all suburban-cliche-style, and shot the **** for a half hour. He told me, in no uncertain terms, to stay home and keep out of it all, for my protection. His opinion is that none of this will do any good anywhere in any way. And he has some pretty crazy cop stories of his own, that are just mind-boggling.

To bring up another, I have told the story here before of going to lunch with my boss, the Sr. VP, who is a black man. He tends to take casual Fridays to an extreme, and this one Friday he was wearing a worn t-shirt and pants with holes in them. I was in my normal khakis and polo shirt with the company logo on it. We drove to restaurant in his Lexus SUV, parked on the street, and walked past a few cops standing around a cop car. They nodded at me, as I was ahead of him because he forgot his phone or something, and I thought nothing of it. I got to the restaurant and turned around to see him with his wallet out and with 2 cops standing in front of him. He then put his wallet away and caught up to me. I asked about it and he more or less said "par for the course".

I spoke to him yesterday as well about the riots and he shared largely the same opinion, that when this all blows over he will still get stopped for "walking down the street while black" just like it has always been.

Not a lot of hope here.
 
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