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Handlogten's Heros said:
Everyone that hates the three are the “get off my lawn back in my day“ types. Empty post and open floor makes for beautiful basketball.
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The post is amazing and incredibly entertaining to watch! This season everyone absolutely loved watching Zion (a post player) bully his way to shots. There have also been many fan favorites who dominated a game in the post not with sheer power, but just pure skill (MJ, DWade, Kareem, Dirk, etc.). It is an absolute myth that post play means no ball movement. In fact, success in the post facilitates ball movement both to cutters as well as to spot up shooters (think Spurs with Duncan). I absolutely love watching post players that are gifted passers (like Jokic, Gasol and Noah) and think it is some of the most beautiful basketball ever played.

If you think the Rockets, with their empty post and open floor, is beautiful basketball then good for you. IMO, the most entertaining/beautiful basketball is (and always has been) a dominant post-player with ball movers, cutters, and shooters/floor spacers. I support changes to the game that find a better balance in post play and shooting the 3 every time (so boring).
 
checkbookdoc said:
The post is amazing and incredibly entertaining to watch! This season everyone absolutely loved watching Zion (a post player) bully his way to shots. There have also been many fan favorites who dominated a game in the post not with sheer power, but just pure skill (MJ, DWade, Kareem, Dirk, etc.). It is an absolute myth that post play means no ball movement. In fact, success in the post facilitates ball movement both to cutters as well as to spot up shooters (think Spurs with Duncan). I absolutely love watching post players that are gifted passers (like Jokic, Gasol and Noah) and think it is some of the most beautiful basketball ever played.

If you think the Rockets, with their empty post and open floor, is beautiful basketball then good for you. IMO, the most entertaining/beautiful basketball is (and always has been) a dominant post-player with ball movers, cutters, and shooters/floor spacers. I support changes to the game that find a better balance in post play and shooting the 3 every time (so boring).
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The post can be an element of the game for sure... Dirk had his fade away in the post... MJ too... but it wasn't their whole game. Wade had a good post game but it wasn't his primary action. Many teams still use post play and pass off of it and it is beautiful... but those trying to take shooting away and go back to the 90s forget the ugly offense and amazing amount of homogeny there was with everyone trying to do it. It has always been a copy cat league.

My issue is saying that the 3 pointer is bad... it isn't. There is plenty of variance in the league. The Rockets are ugly not because they shoot a lot of threes. It is because they play iso ball and when Harden isn't dribbling the air out of the ball he is testing the rules of what he can get away with in travels or foul seeking.

The warriors used the threat of the 3 to become the #1 paint scoring team off of cuts, spacing, and pace... not everyone has to play that way but it shows the beauty of a team that uses the three to shred teams all over the court.
 
Also for every Jokic or Gasol there are a handful of Al Jefferdad's. IMO we have the right amount of post play in the league atm. I would agree to expanding the court a smidge because the corners are two short and then you could push the line back a bit... the idea would not be to get less threes though, but to create more space.
 
So apparently the Thunder get to keep their 1st round draft pick this year if it falls in the top 20. Otherwise, it would convey to Philly. Right now, they're tied with Miami for 21/22. They might be motivated to fall to the 6th seed, letting Miami and Houston get past them, which would likely Utah a 4/5 matchup with Houston.
 
Catchall said:
So apparently the Thunder get to keep their 1st round draft pick this year if it falls in the top 20. Otherwise, it would convey to Philly. Right now, they're tied with Miami for 21/22. They might be motivated to fall to the 6th seed, letting Miami and Houston get past them, which would likely Utah a 4/5 matchup with Houston.
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Fanbases think this way, maybe some front office (but not likely), coaches and players give zero effs and will play to win.
 
NAOS said:
Last year’s Nuggets say Hi HH!
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that was a competitive matter though... rigging a matchup is different than draft position... so they were playing to win but playing the long game.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned but LaMarcus Aldridge underwent rotator cuff surgery and is done for the season.
 
So I wonder how the minute distributions will play out and who ends up starting. I've heard Locke mention a few times that he could see them putting Niang in the starting lineup to keep Joe in his bench role and maybe by pairing Niang with Rudy his defense won't be as bad.

We really needed one more athletic wing or athletic switchy 4 before the Bojan injury... Now we really need it. I heard that there will be a transactional period where guys can be signed and two way guys could be converted. I'd love to see Brantley get converted and then waive NWG. I could see them using Tucker as the wing type but he's kinda small for that role and he never looked good with the varsity squad. Likely gonna see some JC, Conley, DM lineups... its going to be difficult to piece together... I'm sure Quin is in the lab figuring it all out.

Can basketball just start now?
 
I was trying to find some positives looking forward to Jazz performance in playoffs and I came up with two. Firstly without Bojan there will be less pressure on the team, nobody expects them to win it all anymore so maybe that wil allow them to make some pleasant surprises? Second is the fact that Joe should be well rested so hopefully he will be able to have more impact that he had in the last postseason.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Also for every Jokic or Gasol there are a handful of Al Jefferdad's. IMO we have the right amount of post play in the league atm. I would agree to expanding the court a smidge because the corners are two short and then you could push the line back a bit... the idea would not be to get less threes though, but to create more space.
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Obviously. No one’s said threes are dumb. But imo, the dependency on them for team success is a bit much. As is the rate at which people are hitting them now imo. Even if it’s moved back just 8 inches, that would be cool.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Obviously. No one’s said threes are dumb. But imo, the dependency on them for team success is a bit much. As is the rate at which people are hitting them now imo. Even if it’s moved back just 8 inches, that would be cool.
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It will always be a make or miss league though... 97-98 we shot like 22% from 3 in the finals.

No extreme changes need to be made to the game. I'd eliminate charges and try new things to eliminate rule bending/flopping.

If they really wanted to bring the post game back it wouldn't be through moving the 3 point line... they could just call the game in the post like they do on the perimeter. If someone grazes Harden's forearm as he pushes it into their arms its a foul... in the post guys drive their bodies and arms into guys hips/legs and its basically a wrestling match that doesn't get called a lot. Its part of the reason short guys like PJ Tucker are so effective at post defense... they are allowed get into guys and move them... sometimes as they are shooting.
 
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