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Beer said:
Meh, maybe, possibly. But like I said the cops lives are more important than the dangerous *** criminals. Don't care if they are jew, white, mexican, indian, black, gypsy. If you commit a violent crime with a gun all bets are off. Thats on you, the criminal.

Can't make cops wait to be shot before they can protect themselves and society. Thats idiotic and irrational.

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Sorry, I was referring to the mexican guy that got killed last week. Not this case.
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Keeping it simple makes it easier to understand I guess.


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Watched copwatch this morning was interesting. Currently watching Stewart Lee's pear cider bit to raise my morale, well trying to watch it over the noise generated by my bird's snoring on the couch.
 
Avery said:
Shots should not have been fired. Seems like other less lethal measures should have been used first.
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Life is so precious and to take it so quickly for not following orders isn't dumb imo.

This is why officers need more training to learn how to de escalate situations like this, have patience and have everyone make it out not being traumatized by the shooting. Glad this person lived.
 
fishonjazz said:
What's "MLM"?

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Essentially a "legal" pyramid scheme, which traffic in questionable products to get past the fact that the only way to make money is to get people under you to sell for you so you can make money off their "sales", and to make more money, you need more people. In fact if you get enough people under you, your can become a double platinum diamond distributor. You can actually make a lot of money. Hell, the upline guy just bought a new Lexus...with CASH! Hey why don't I just come over and we can talk about it. I can show you a cool presentation. It will only take an hour or 3. I'm sure it's something you'd be interested in. Haven't you ever wanted to be your own boss and make a lot of money just using products you have to buy anyway? Wait till you try the toothpaste! You're going to love it. And it makes shopping so much easier on the mrs. When would you have an hour? I'll just come over on Saturday at 5? Mmmk?
 


This is another one where I think there could have been a different outcome with more training. When I first saw this I remember thinking it was justified - and I still think that to a certain extent but see it differently.

The cop does a great job explaining himself and why he's there up until the loses his cool and yes for the cop to leave. The cops tells him to calm down in an authoritative voice, closes the gap between them and then pushes/shoves the guy - worst ****ing time to do that.

I wonder what would have happened if the cop maintained some distance, tried to get the guy to calm down when his emotions got high - like simple, let's take a deep breath or everything is going to be ok etc.

Obviously, the shovel guy was up to no good, but if cops are trained how to de escalate situations and have more patients and use words longer than force, maybe more lives would be saved? I'm certainly not the expert.
 

This most recent one is one I understand the most although he was shot in the back. The kid had a gun and was reaching for it. Cops can't wait to see what happens next.

Sorry for the kid losing his life, but when you're robbing people with a gun at 2 AM, and then run from cops with a gun, I'm not sure what would have de escalated this
 
Archie Moses said:
This most recent one is one I understand the most although he was shot in the back. The kid had a gun and was reaching for it. Cops can't wait to see what happens next.

Sorry for the kid losing his life, but when you're robbing people with a gun at 2 AM, and then run from cops with a gun, I'm not sure what would have de escalated this
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You can't out-run a radio. In some countries, where the police are mostly unarmed, they follow from a safe distance until they can surround the guy.
 
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